*2015-16 CBB non-UNI games*

[Username]

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Austin is a transfer but not really. JUCO isn't quite the same

I suppose you're correct, but if we can mix high school+juco and sprinkle in a few transfers here and there, we will always be competitive. Easier said than done, but would much rather do that than have straight transfers like that school down south.

[claw]

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I suppose you're correct, but if we can mix high school+juco and sprinkle in a few transfers here and there, we will always be competitive. Easier said than done, but would much rather do that than have straight transfers like that school down south.

Ageed. It just is a small thing of mine when JUCO kids get "lumped" together with other transfers, especially when they are an occasional thing. Building a program on transfers (JUCO or "regular") is bound to blow up in your face, unless you jump ship before it has a chance too (Hoiberg)

[cydave]

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I suppose you're correct, but if we can mix high school+juco and sprinkle in a few transfers here and there, we will always be competitive. Easier said than done, but would much rather do that than have straight transfers like that school down south.

You do realize that ISU is starting 3 HS players (Niang, Morris, and Long), 1 JUCO (McKay), and 1 Transfer (Nader) Right?
And the 6th and 7th man off the bench is 1 HS (Thomas) and 1 Transfer (Cooke).

Even going back to Hoiberg's teams, it was always a mix of HS, JUCO, and transfers. And it won't be changing with Prohm, either.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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You do realize that ISU is starting 3 HS players (Niang, Morris, and Long), 1 JUCO (McKay), and 1 Transfer (Nader) Right?
And the 6th and 7th man off the bench is 1 HS (Thomas) and 1 Transfer (Cooke).

Even going back to Hoiberg's teams, it was always a mix of HS, JUCO, and transfers. And it won't be changing with Prohm, either.

Right but there aren't many coaches that can make that work.

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WSU dow. 29-11 to Iowa with 6 min left in the first half.

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Iowa is up 51-21 with 17 min left. Shockers are broken and its ugly.

[BCPanther]

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No excuse. VanVleet doesn't make this much difference.

Personally, I think it'd be pretty funny if there's some buyers remorse on Greggggggggggg here in a couple of years. This game is a lot easier with All American guards.

[ceaser150]

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Wasnt there talk in the off season of the shocks second team being capable of winning the valley?

[Spathicle]

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Shockers were missing a couple guys beyond VV. I really thought they were deeper but this skid is ugly. Hope they can get it together and win some games before conference play.

[Khan4Cats]

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Shockers next game is at St. Louis on Saturday. Van Vleet is suppposed to be back for that one. After that they host UNLV and Utah. The Utah game should be the first that their hometown Kansas transfer is eligible. The combined record of their remaining non-conference foes is 26-8. Plenty of time for them to recover and have a solid non-conference finish and be formidable in the Valley.

A bigger concern is Illinois State crapping the bed in the non-conference. Still have games at Kentucky, at St. Joe's, and home to UAB and Murray. Sitting 2-4, they need to split those to have a .500 non assuming they get the UIC and Tenn St. games.

Overall the conference is 25-29 in the non-con so far. Part of that is Wichita's struggles, but IlSU and Loyola not performing real well so far hurts just as much. SIU at least is picking up wins even if they aren't high-quality.

Fun game later today as Evansville takes on UC-Irvine. Mock gonna look small next to Ndiaye.

[Stickboy46]

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No excuse. VanVleet doesn't make this much difference.

Personally, I think it'd be pretty funny if there's some buyers remorse on Greggggggggggg here in a couple of years. This game is a lot easier with All American guards.

Correct, he doesn't make up THAT much. But missing Fred, then Missing Anton (2nd leading scorer this year), then missing Shamet (3rd leading scorer this year, and most capable freshmen and another back up PG), then also not having Frankamp ( would be the true Backup PG along with being another scoring threat) DOES make up for a lot. That is a ridiculous amount of skill and firepower missing. We have been playing a SG at PG backed up by a 3rd or 4th string true freshman PG. Not many teams will win with those circumstances.

We will be dangerous come March. And there is no Buyers remorse, you can't expect any team to excel with everything that has happened.

[CyCarp]

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Correct, he doesn't make up THAT much. But missing Fred, then Missing Anton (2nd leading scorer this year), then missing Shamet (3rd leading scorer this year, and most capable freshmen and another back up PG), then also not having Frankamp ( would be the true Backup PG along with being another scoring threat) DOES make up for a lot. That is a ridiculous amount of skill and firepower missing. We have been playing a SG at PG backed up by a 3rd or 4th string true freshman PG. Not many teams will win with those circumstances.

We will be dangerous come March. And there is no Buyers remorse, you can't expect any team to excel with everything that has happened.

I understand Grady, Shamet, and Frankamp are going to be a big part of their team, but none of them played last year. Do you really expect them to be such big pieces to the puzzle right away? I don't care who their leading scorers are so far this year, these guys have 3-5 games in - it's far too early to use that as a factor, especially when two of the games were against Charleston Southern and Emporia State. Regardless, they don't seem to go as deep as everybody was saying, at least not until their young guys get more playing time.

[Kyle]

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Evansville vs UC Irvine and the monster center on ESPNU right now.

[Codytwo]

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KenPom now projects that UNI and WSU will tie for the Valley Championship with conference records of 13-5. Evansville is a close third with a record of 12-6.

[BCPanther]

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I understand Grady, Shamet, and Frankamp are going to be a big part of their team, but none of them played last year. Do you really expect them to be such big pieces to the puzzle right away? I don't care who their leading scorers are so far this year, these guys have 3-5 games in - it's far too early to use that as a factor, especially when two of the games were against Charleston Southern and Emporia State. Regardless, they don't seem to go as deep as everybody was saying, at least not until their young guys get more playing time.

You have an All American guard that is still playing.

I was also told that Shaq Morris was going to be a force. He really disappears for long stretches.