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  • Already a historic season???

    We are only about 1/3 of the way through, but isn't this season already one for the history books?

    1- most of the time seasons are known by how they end. (See: Iowa State last year. Several great come-from-behind wins; an NCAA stinker!)

    2- Eldon's last (?) team had wins against both Iowa & ISU, but the Jan/Feb/Mar. was nothing great. An important season for us locally. This year we've already had national splash twice.

    Even early, this is one to talk about. Hope there is more to add!

    Discuss.


    P.S. I kind of like our transfers. Our team would still be nice without Wes & Paul. With them - another level!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Already a historic season???

    Without those two, this team reminds me of the mid 2000s teams with Jostens or Viet that just didn't have a go-to guy.

    I think this season has a chance to be very special if they start playing like every game is as important as the two big ones we've won. If not, we may be looking at NIT or one of the Cxx tourneys. The wins were fun but I want to be watching the Panthers in March. My favorite day of the year is Selection Sunday while we wait to see where we'll be and who we'll play. If we don't do that because we lay a bunch of eggs, I don't see this season as a success at all.

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      Re: Already a historic season???

      Your basketball season is judged on one thing, how deep in March did you go?

      Sure, regular season wins are fun and great, but 5 years from now will you still be saying to people "Hey remember 5 years ago in November and December when we beat UNC and ISU?" Doubtful, especially if UNI ends up missing the NCAA Tourney or bows out in the first or second round.

      Take last year for example at ISU. They had a great regular season, won the Big 12 tourney championship and ranked in and around the top 10 all year. Had all the makings for a historic deep run. Getting upset in the first round to UAB ruined the season. When thinking back to last season, nobody really talks about the trouncing of Iowa in December, beating top 10 Kansas twice, the historic comeback win in Hilton vs OU, or all 3 of the great wins in Kansas City for the Big 12 tourney. The first thing that comes to your mind is getting upset in the NCAA Tourney. I think if you asked any ISU fan if they would trade any of those wins or the Big 12 Tourney Championship for a Sweet 16 appearance, they would take it in a heartbeat.

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        Re: Already a historic season???

        Originally posted by cydave View Post
        Your basketball season is judged on one thing, how deep in March did you go?

        Sure, regular season wins are fun and great, but 5 years from now will you still be saying to people "Hey remember 5 years ago in November and December when we beat UNC and ISU?" Doubtful, especially if UNI ends up missing the NCAA Tourney or bows out in the first or second round.

        Take last year for example at ISU. They had a great regular season, won the Big 12 tourney championship and ranked in and around the top 10 all year. Had all the makings for a historic deep run. Getting upset in the first round to UAB ruined the season. When thinking back to last season, nobody really talks about the trouncing of Iowa in December, beating top 10 Kansas twice, the historic comeback win in Hilton vs OU, or all 3 of the great wins in Kansas City for the Big 12 tourney. The first thing that comes to your mind is getting upset in the NCAA Tourney. I think if you asked any ISU fan if they would trade any of those wins or the Big 12 Tourney Championship for a Sweet 16 appearance, they would take it in a heartbeat.
        Certainly setting up what could be an historic season, by that definition.

        The coaching and pieces are in place - fun to see how they continue to evolve through the conference play and into March.
        "Well, that escalated quickly."

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        • #5
          Re: Already a historic season???

          Originally posted by ronfitch View Post
          Certainly setting up what could be an historic season, by that definition.

          The coaching and pieces are in place - fun to see how they continue to evolve through the conference play and into March.
          Yes, it's setting up to be a historic season. But, not already a historic season.

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          • #6
            Re: Already a historic season???

            Originally posted by cydave View Post
            Your basketball season is judged on one thing, how deep in March did you go?
            This is true but this is still a historic season. Has UNI ever even played two top 5 teams before? Let alone win both!
            "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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            • #7
              Re: Already a historic season???

              The tournament is what matters but what they have done is one hell of a footnote if it doesn't happen.

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                Re: Already a historic season???

                Originally posted by cydave View Post
                Your basketball season is judged on one thing, how deep in March did you go?

                Sure, regular season wins are fun and great, but 5 years from now will you still be saying to people "Hey remember 5 years ago in November and December when we beat UNC and ISU?" Doubtful, especially if UNI ends up missing the NCAA Tourney or bows out in the first or second round.

                Take last year for example at ISU. They had a great regular season, won the Big 12 tourney championship and ranked in and around the top 10 all year. Had all the makings for a historic deep run. Getting upset in the first round to UAB ruined the season. When thinking back to last season, nobody really talks about the trouncing of Iowa in December, beating top 10 Kansas twice, the historic comeback win in Hilton vs OU, or all 3 of the great wins in Kansas City for the Big 12 tourney. The first thing that comes to your mind is getting upset in the NCAA Tourney. I think if you asked any ISU fan if they would trade any of those wins or the Big 12 Tourney Championship for a Sweet 16 appearance, they would take it in a heartbeat.


                If we win against Oklahoma . . . it will certainly be historic regardless of what happens during the rest of the season.

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                • #9
                  Re: Already a historic season???

                  Sure. It's historic. It still might not be a great season, but there are historic things about it. Being unranked and beating two top-5 teams is statistically unusual and worth noting historically, even if the rest of the season proves frustrating.

                  What's weird about this team is the terrible play in the losses. We seem to be either unstoppable (60% from 3) or terrible (24%). Maybe in NM they were all sick. Maybe there was some infighting and team dynamic problems that were solved with a transfer.

                  If we can get consistent, it will be a great year.

                  Another example of historic was DJ's shoes in the HOF. That was early in the season.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Already a historic season???

                    We are one major injury/academic issue/other issue from this turning the other way. Jake seems determined not to pull off a red shirt. Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Already a historic season???

                      Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                      We are one major injury/academic issue/other issue from this turning the other way. Jake seems determined not to pull off a red shirt. Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.
                      Why would he? He doesn't feel those guys are ready and until this injury happens there isn't a need beyond nervousness. Austins transfer changes nothing for a McDonnell. Different position, different player.

                      I'm trusting Ben on this one

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                      • #12
                        Re: Already a historic season???

                        Originally posted by panther-state View Post
                        Why would he? He doesn't feel those guys are ready and until this injury happens there isn't a need beyond nervousness. Austins transfer changes nothing for a McDonnell. Different position, different player.

                        I'm trusting Ben on this one
                        Yeah, Austin is better suited to the Division II level. Will our legs hold up in St. Louis with a short bench? WSU goes 10 deep without Grady and Shamet.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Already a historic season???

                          Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                          Yeah, Austin is better suited to the Division II level. Will our legs hold up in St. Louis with a short bench? WSU goes 10 deep without Grady and Shamet.
                          We'll see this week. This week will be a good test; the flight over to Hawaii takes a bit to recover from. It will be interesting to see how much energy they play with, especially the second and third game. Basically four games this week.

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