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  • #61
    Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

    Originally posted by GonzoCat View Post
    That's unbelievable that the inaugural Vegas16 will only feature 8 teams. Wonder if there will be a second one next year? A lot of people on here were pretty high on that tourney, thinking it would be the next best one after the NIT. Must not be as good a deal as was thought, did anyone have actual financial info or was it just speculation?
    The first thing that stood out to me are that the games are on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. If that tournament doesn't line up with a school's spring break, then it's just another 3 days that the student athletes will be out of class. Participation may have been better if the tournament were to be held over a weekend.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by UNI MadCat View Post
      Interesting.



      What about Evansville?

      They flat said no to anything that wasn't NIT

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      • #63
        Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

        I do feel sorry for and Ballantine and Mock, but i believe their strength of schedule out of conference was really weak. If they had given themselves a chance at some quality wins it might have helped them and the conference
        "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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        • #64
          Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

          Marty let Balentine, The Lithuanian and Wing make the decision and apparently it was a unanimous 'No'.

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          • #65
            Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

            I wonder how they would have scheduled games if they had gotten 16 teams. From a non student standpoint that would have been a fun trip. I like the fact that it consolidates travel costs to a single trip for all teams and fans. Curious to see if it comes back.

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            • #66
              Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

              Happened to notice the V16 (err, 8) was on tonight. Couldn't be more than 100 people in the stands.

              That said, sounds like the teams are taking the right approach. And the sense of humor from the organizers was pretty funny. Also didn't realize they had a better field, RPI-wise than the other two 3rd tier tourneys.

              Decent article here, http://pilotonline.com/sports/colleg...337b3fd02.html

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              • #67
                Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                Van Pelt ripped it pretty bad. "Hey man I went to Vegas. Oh did you see a show? Nah man Towson-Oakland." I thought this would be a successful event with no minimum bids and the condensed schedule. But they couldn't fill out the bracket, no big teams bit and attendance has been an abject failure. I'd be surprised if it comes back next year. From a tourist attraction standpoint it has to be a failure for Mandalay Bay. I guess the problem with neutral site 3rd tier tourneys that I didnt consider is its a tough draw...even more so than the CIT and CBI playing on home courts.

                Btw, the CIT couldn't fill out the bracket this year either. Just 26 teams. As schools become more budget concious these third tier tourneys may be in trouble.

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                • #68
                  Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                  I think the men should adopt the women's model.

                  64 team NIT
                  24 team CBI

                  All three tournaments owned by NCAA and pretty much guarantees that if you have a winning record you get to play postseason somewhere.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                    They also have auto bids for every conference in the NIT. So the top finisher not in the ncaas automatically gets in. Would have been UE this year.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                      Originally posted by UNIGrainer View Post
                      They also have auto bids for every conference in the NIT. So the top finisher not in the ncaas automatically gets in. Would have been UE this year.
                      The auto bid is only for the regular season champ that doesn't win the conference tourney to make the NCAA, if UE would have gotten an NIT bid they would have taken it.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                        Originally posted by achrist70 View Post
                        The auto bid is only for the regular season champ that doesn't win the conference tourney to make the NCAA, if UE would have gotten an NIT bid they would have taken it.
                        He's saying what the women use and what he thinks the men should adopt.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                          If the men just had the 68 in the NCAA's and 64 in the NIT that would mean the top 37% or so of all teams would make a postseason appearance. That seems pretty fair to me.Most of the good teams like Evansville would get a chance to play on.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                            Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post
                            He's saying what the women use and what he thinks the men should adopt.
                            Yes.

                            Kaboom.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Vegas 16 tourney thoughts?

                              The third tier tourneys need to vanish... No one wants to see 18-14 teams play...

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