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[SteinPizza]

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I think what is driving the Phyfe talk is the performance of the current starting center. The only thing you can do is hope that the incoming recruit can improve that situation. If Bennett was playing well, you wouldn't hear any talk about Phyfe. Unfortunately, he's not been playing well, the team is losing games and fans are looking to the future and trying to find a reason to stay excited.

But that's terribly unfair to the incoming player, and also a hope/opinion with no factual history to back it up. True FR just don't come in the MVC and light it up, especially big guys. Now, he may be good enough to get some minutes and show some promise, but he's not going to walk in here and immediately give us an inside presence that teams have to account for. I'd love to be wrong on that, but highly doubt I am.

[hoopfan]

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But that's terribly unfair to the incoming player, and also a hope/opinion with no factual history to back it up. True FR just don't come in the MVC and light it up, especially big guys. Now, he may be good enough to get some minutes and show some promise, but he's not going to walk in here and immediately give us an inside presence that teams have to account for. I'd love to be wrong on that, but highly doubt I am.

I don't know what you are getting at with the bolded part of your post? There are no facts to back up having expectations for a freshman player? If UNI signed an inner-city Chicago kid who was putting up big numbers in high school and on the AAU circuit, do you mean to tell me you would have no expectations of him coming in?

I'm not arguing whether or not it is fair, but that is the nature of being a recruit. If I were a recruit I would much rather have high expectations than to have the fan base be completely indifferent and have no expectations.

Like I said though, if the current starting center was playing well and putting up numbers you wouldn't be seeing these posts about Phyfe because fans would be excited for another year of the current starter. They would also likely be talking the upside of being able to redshirt Phyfe due to the play of guys currently on the roster.

Forgive me and others for hoping that an incoming recruit can do better than 3 assists, 32 turnovers and 2 rebounds per game halfway through the season.

[UNIhoops]

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I totally see how you took my post and I also posted it being frustrated after getting beat by Bradley. What I meant was what hoopfan stated that with how the current talent is performing my wish is that Phyfe can come in and contribute. Honestly I hope he can redshirt. I didn't mean it to sound that I was calling Phyfe out or trying to put pressure on him. Simply hoping he can help us. With the way Koch has been playing and not getting Dahl any time, my fear is that we don't have much talent at the post and for us to get back to having a chance at the tourney we need it. History definitely shows us that posts don't develop until late. We have been spoiled lately with UNI basketball and would like to continue to be spoiled.

[TravelingPanther]

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No booing. Buy them participation trophies, bake some cookies and grab a pack of Capri Sun.

[Pantherlope2019]

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This thinking on Phyfe is exactly why people need to back off on AJ Green for expectations (and why he may not want to come here). Odds are, with Koch, Carlson, Friedman, McDonnell, Dahl already on the roster, that Phfye will redshirt. AJ would likely be playing right away, but looking at how many people keep calling out for Phyfe to be the difference maker, would be out of this world with expectations for AJ should he come here.

Phyfe is better than 3 of the 5 mentioned bigs above. He needs to play right away. We have given up 28+ points in the paint in 3 of 5 conference games. Our bigs that we have are foul prone. On top of that the guards can't stay in between their man and the basket and are not closing out quick enough on 3 point shots. Again, the coaches are 100% at fault for all of the problems. The staff refuses to adjust their system to fit personnel. They continue to expect a group of relatively slow players to cover man to man the entire 40 minutes. I've watched or attended every game and we have played zone 1% of the time. Our bigs mentioned above don't have the desire or footwork to rebound. We continue to get drilled game in and game out on the boards. Now of course one may argue the new freedom of movement rule has hampered the coaches and players, but they have had 16 games to figure it out.

[GonzoCat]

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Perhaps this offseason there'll be a little more recruiting and a little less fishing. I'm a passionate fan, and I think the team appreciates that more than the fans that just don't show up after a few losses.

I agree on the "recruitment" rather than "fishing." There has been a dramatic shift toward much more serious recruitment for Iowa State football with Coach Campbell. They aren't "taking flyers" on guys from Texas passed over by all the other Texas schools. They are going after the guys they really want.

Could be wrong, but I think he meant fishing in a more literal sense. As in Jake likes to spend a lot of time with a rod and reel in the off season when he should maybe be recruiting. Or figuring out something about the offensive end of basketball.

Two positive thoughts about this historically bad season. Perhaps we can get one of those recruits who wants to go somewhere that he can play and contribute right away. They all have to think that would be the case at UNI. And I don't think we'll have to sweat too much about other programs coming after our coach after this year.

[BCPanther]

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Could be wrong, but I think he meant fishing in a more literal sense. As in Jake likes to spend a lot of time with a rod and reel in the off season when he should maybe be recruiting. Or figuring out something about the offensive end of basketball.

Two positive thoughts about this historically bad season. Perhaps we can get one of those recruits who wants to go somewhere that he can play and contribute right away. They all have to think that would be the case at UNI. And I don't think we'll have to sweat too much about other programs coming after our coach after this year.

Historically bad???

You do realize UNI had basketball before 2004, right??

[06panther10]

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Historically bad???

You do realize UNI had basketball before 2004, right??

We are 5-12 and havent won a basketball game in 35 days. If that is not historically bad, then I don't know what is.

[Blue42]

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I will be really surprised if Phyfe red shirts.

Sounds like his body is ready. We need him. I think he plays.

Starting five next year...McCloud, Haldeman, Lohaus, Carlson, Phyfe.

Think we'll see a lot of McDermott too if he's got his stroke at 40%. He can shoot it with a defender in his face.

[06panther10]

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I will be really surprised if Phyfe red shirts.

Sounds like his body is ready. We need him. I think he plays.

He should redshirt.

We have FIVE post players returning next year. It would be a waste of a season.

[BCPanther]

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He should redshirt.

We have FIVE post players returning next year. It would be a waste of a season.

I totally see both sides. If he's willing and Dahl makes big strides, I'm with you. Redshirt him and we'll take his age 23 season over his age 19 season.

If Dahl still isn't ready to contribute and Ted Friedman is still a guy that you think you have to count on, I'd rather Phyfe have those minutes. Ted's an incredible kid, but man he's just not a good basketball player. No touch and an offensive liability.

[Gboom23]

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BC, I think you've mentioned this before as well - wouldn't a redshirt on Phyfe throw our recruiting classes even further out of whack than where they are currently?

[BCPanther]

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BC, I think you've mentioned this before as well - wouldn't a redshirt on Phyfe throw our recruiting classes even further out of whack than where they are currently?

It would. The one thing that Knar transferring and getting Ashton did was put a second scholarship in this class and getting one out of the year after. Pushing Wyatt back a year helps there too. Here's what the scholarship chart looks like with Wyatt's redshirt and I'll assume we get a wing that plays right away (I'll full on jinx it and put Pickford in)

Seniors (Class of 18)
Carlson RS
Friedman RS
Koch RS
Rhodes

Juniors (Class of 19)
W Lohaus RS

Sophomores (Class of 20)
Brown
Dahl RS
Haldeman RS
McCloud
McDermott RS (W/o next year, scholarship year after)
McDonnell RS

Freshmen (Class of 21)
T Lohaus RS
Phyfe
Pickford

McDermott could be pulled off scholarship for 1 year for a grad transfer.

We're still way unbalanced, but it's getting better but redshirting Phyfe does throw another scholarship into the class that already has 4 in it. I'm the end, you do what's best for the player no matter what it does to your scholarship situation.

[Pantherlope2019]

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I will be really surprised if Phyfe red shirts.

Sounds like his body is ready. We need him. I think he plays.

Starting five next year...McCloud, Haldeman, Lohaus, Carlson, Phyfe.

Think we'll see a lot of McDermott too if he's got his stroke at 40%. He can shoot it with a defender in his face.

I'm with you on playing Phyfe. My starting five 17-18 would be Carlson, Koch, Brown, W. Lohaus, and Haldeman. Bench order McDonnell, McCloud, Phyfe, Pickford (If we get him), Rhoads, Dahl, T. Lohaus, McDermott, Freidman, Conrey, and De souza. Of course if the Pickford kid goes elsewhere we could go the graduate transfer/JC route to get a capable 6'5" wing.

[Pantherlope2019]

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It would. The one thing that Knar transferring and getting Ashton did was put a second scholarship in this class and getting one out of the year after. Pushing Wyatt back a year helps there too. Here's what the scholarship chart looks like with Wyatt's redshirt and I'll assume we get a wing that plays right away (I'll full on jinx it and put Pickford in)

Seniors (Class of 18)
Carlson RS
Friedman RS
Koch RS
Rhodes

Juniors (Class of 19)
W Lohaus RS

Sophomores (Class of 20)
Brown
Dahl RS
Haldeman RS
McDermott RS
McDonnell RS

Freshmen (Class of 21)
T Lohaus RS
Phyfe
Pickford

McDermott could be pulled off scholarship for 1 year for a grad transfer.

We're still way unbalanced, but it's getting better but redshirting Phyfe does throw another scholarship into the class that already has 4 in it. I'm the end, you do what's best for the player no matter what it does to your scholarship situation.

McCloud would be in the Soph class of 2020. Non Scholarships would be Conrey (Soph) and De souza (Senior). Of course transfers or adding non scholarship players changes things. There's a chance for a non scholarship player to play into a scholarship. It's usually not the case though. A player like McCloud taking a red shirt in a later season would also make it different.