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  • #16
    Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
    I'm not sure that Betz isn't going to end up getting that same unfortunate case of 'mono' that Anthony James got in 2008. Truly unfortunate timing for a 'health issue'.
    Well, that's a bit cryptic. Seriously, if you know for real, is there something going on behind the scenes that you are allowed to shed light on?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post

      Well, that's a bit cryptic. Seriously, if you know for real, is there something going on behind the scenes that you are allowed to shed light on?
      Think Jordan Bohannon and the use of the medical redshirt rule.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

        Think Jordan Bohannon and the use of the medical redshirt rule.
        Was actually thinking about that yesterday. He'll keep dressing just in case, but he's under the threshold where he could go that route.

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        • #19
          I noticed Cole Henry dressed for pre-game. He must be doing pretty well rehabbing his injury.
          "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

            Think Jordan Bohannon and the use of the medical redshirt rule.
            What ailment are they going to use for Carter? It's been a great non-con in terms of the wins and losses. My only complaint at this point is likely burning a year of eligibility for both Carter and Betz. I'm not sure Carter has played close to 10 minutes in a meaningful game all year. Hate to see a year burned for such little run time.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by hoopfan View Post

              What ailment are they going to use for Carter? It's been a great non-con in terms of the wins and losses. My only complaint at this point is likely burning a year of eligibility for both Carter and Betz. I'm not sure Carter has played close to 10 minutes in a meaningful game all year. Hate to see a year burned for such little run time.
              Of the two, Carter seems the most game ready to handle the jump from high school. Betz has a TON of potential that was evident in his limited time, but he looked lost against West Virginia. Taking a RS at this point will allow him to adjust better to the college game. The only negative I would have about that would be the balance in scholarships by class.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by hoopfan View Post

                What ailment are they going to use for Carter? It's been a great non-con in terms of the wins and losses. My only complaint at this point is likely burning a year of eligibility for both Carter and Betz. I'm not sure Carter has played close to 10 minutes in a meaningful game all year. Hate to see a year burned for such little run time.
                Already been said. Mono.

                No idea if anything like that even remotely happens behind the scenes but it has before.

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                • #23
                  Carter is actually going to be a valuable piece in league play. He's that tweener that's a tough matchup for people.

                  A 8 man rotation, where one is really matchup dependent (Dahl), isn't going to work playing every 3 or 4 days. I'm guilty, too, of not realizing how spaced out games have been in the non-con. That's allowed us a ton of Top 6 minutes.

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                  • #24
                    The WVU loss changed the season. Look at team stats into/including WVU and then after. The mentality of the team changed and it shows.

                    Most importantly, it seems to have pissed AJ off and changed his season.

                    Against WVU AJ played 36 minutes, was 2-15 shooting overall and 1-7 from deep for just 5 points.

                    Since then he is averaging over 23 points per game and shooting 45% from deep - while still taking 8 3s per game. He was at 24.9% on the season going into the WVU game. He's made 55% of his three point total made since then while taking just 40% of his season total. He also took just 6 total FT through the first 7 games (through WVU). He's taken 37 in the 5 games since, and made 33 of them.

                    His mentality has shifted. He was hell bent on just shooting 3s until he made them early in the season. That WVU loss, and the way he played, changed him/the team.

                    His deep ball wasn't falling against Marshall (0-4 [and still shooting 45% from deep since WVU]) and rather than continuing to shoot them like he would have before he told the defender to eat **** and abused the hell out of them inside the line because he's one of like 6 people in the country you want shooting 15-17 footers.

                    With his mentality shift there isn't a 6'5 point guard that can defend him in league play....because you aren't running your off guard or wing away from Trae or Isaiah with the way they are shooting right now.



                    Oh - and as for all the people that hate UNI just chucking it from deep - top 30 in the country in 3 point percentage with AJ shooting 25% through 7 games, which seems to have corrected itself.

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                    • #25
                      I honestly don't know how teams in the league are going to defend us. Nobody has the length to deal with 6-4, 6-5, 6-7 on the wing when they're all shooting 40+% and Haldeman is a good enough shooter where you have to stand on his toes.

                      We're in for a really fun couple months here.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                        I honestly don't know how teams in the league are going to defend us. Nobody has the length to deal with 6-4, 6-5, 6-7 on the wing when they're all shooting 40+% and Haldeman is a good enough shooter where you have to stand on his toes.

                        We're in for a really fun couple months here.
                        This is exactly why, as much as we liked what the guards we traditionally have had are we needed to take that next step in terms of recruiting and need to continue too.

                        We all loved what Matt Bohannon was and what he could bring as a shooter (and Spencer is a slightly middle class version of Bohannon). I loved what Johnny brought to the court as much/more than anyone. Same with Ali. They are all guys that built the program to where it is and made massive plays in massive moments. The next step from them is guys with similar offensive skill sets that are taller and more athletic/better defenders/longer/etc.

                        That's exactly what a guy like AJ is. A guy like Trae. Potentially guys like Heise and Carter. It's part of what made Sonnen so damn great. He was the first iteration of what the program really needs at every position to get to the next level. A guy that is offensively similar to Bohannon, Ali, Spencer, etc. when it comes to shooter but has more height and more ability to slash.

                        Guys like Lincoln a decade ago would have been big time minute guys for us. Kwadzo, Ali, Johnny, etc. were the next step from guys like Vogt, Josten, etc. We need guys similar to Trae, Isaiah, Carter (to develop), etc. to be the next step.
                        Last edited by clenz; 12-30-2019, 09:07 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by clenz View Post

                          This is exactly why, as much as we liked what the guards we traditionally have had are we needed to take that next step in terms of recruiting and need to continue too.

                          We all loved what Matt Bohannon was and what he could bring as a shooter (and Spencer is a slightly middle class version of Bohannon). I loved what Johnny brought to the court as much/more than anyone. Same with Ali. They are all guys that built the program to where it is and made massive plays in massive moments. The next step from them is guys with similar offensive skill sets that are taller and more athletic/better defenders/longer/etc.

                          That's exactly what a guy like AJ is. A guy like Trae. Potentially guys like Heise and Carter. It's part of what made Sonnen so damn great. He was the first iteration of what the program really needs at every position to get to the next level. A guy that is offensively similar to Bohannon, Ali, Spencer, etc. when it comes to shooter but has more height and more ability to slash.

                          Guys like Lincoln a decade ago would have been big time minute guys for us. Kwadzo, Ali, Johnny, etc. were the next step from guys like Vogt, Josten, etc. We need guys similar to Trae, Isaiah, Carter (to develop), etc. to be the next step.
                          Looking like Heise is certainly going to fill that role. Tytan may be a tweener offensively but will be the Kerwin Dunham/Jeremy Morgan/Isiah Brown type long defender who can put up points as needed.

                          And then there is Born. 2-3 inches taller and he's not in our target. The talent is all there, just a little small for the 'big' schools and hopefully comes in with a chip because of that.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Khan4Cats View Post

                            Looking like Heise is certainly going to fill that role. Tytan may be a tweener offensively but will be the Kerwin Dunham/Jeremy Morgan/Isiah Brown type long defender who can put up points as needed.

                            And then there is Born. 2-3 inches taller and he's not in our target. The talent is all there, just a little small for the 'big' schools and hopefully comes in with a chip because of that.
                            Tytan will be in the Isaiah Brown mold...defense first wing with rebounding capabilities and athleticism who will develop an offensive game at about his junior year.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by clenz View Post

                              This is exactly why, as much as we liked what the guards we traditionally have had are we needed to take that next step in terms of recruiting and need to continue too.

                              We all loved what Matt Bohannon was and what he could bring as a shooter (and Spencer is a slightly middle class version of Bohannon). I loved what Johnny brought to the court as much/more than anyone. Same with Ali. They are all guys that built the program to where it is and made massive plays in massive moments. The next step from them is guys with similar offensive skill sets that are taller and more athletic/better defenders/longer/etc.

                              That's exactly what a guy like AJ is. A guy like Trae. Potentially guys like Heise and Carter. It's part of what made Sonnen so damn great. He was the first iteration of what the program really needs at every position to get to the next level. A guy that is offensively similar to Bohannon, Ali, Spencer, etc. when it comes to shooter but has more height and more ability to slash.

                              Guys like Lincoln a decade ago would have been big time minute guys for us. Kwadzo, Ali, Johnny, etc. were the next step from guys like Vogt, Josten, etc. We need guys similar to Trae, Isaiah, Carter (to develop), etc. to be the next step.
                              Ya, that Aidan Vogt was one heck of a three-point shooter. How soon we forget guys like that!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by orangetennis View Post

                                Tytan will be in the Isaiah Brown mold...defense first wing with rebounding capabilities and athleticism who will develop an offensive game at about his junior year.
                                Ty is MILES ahead of where Za was offensively his freshman year, and I say that with him still having a large chunk of high school basketball left.

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