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  • Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post

    Lunardi has them as one of the teams with at least an 85% chance of getting in, and there are 4 or 5 teams behind them still in that category. I don't foresee them losing out the end of the year, they seem to have figured things out. Plus, even if they did somehow lose out as long as they win in KC at least 1 they'll likely be in with as many quad 1 wins as they have.
    Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia are all humble and hungry trying to get the last at large. Home vs OSU and West Virginia road at Kansas State and Baylor. They need to get to 21 in the W column. Need a split and one at the conference tourney. I don't see it. Twenty in the win column might still do it, but I think it's a 1 seed in the NIT. The selection team frowns on late losses.

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    • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post

      Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia are all humble and hungry trying to get the last at large. Home vs OSU and West Virginia road at Kansas State and Baylor. They need to get to 21 in the W column. Need a split and one at the conference tourney. I don't see it. Twenty in the win column might still do it, but I think it's a 1 seed in the NIT. The selection team frowns on late losses.
      Wow.

      That's all complete bull****.

      One more win and they're a lock. They've got 8 Q1 wins. The end of season component was taken out overa decade ago.

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      • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

        Wow.

        That's all complete bull****.

        One more win and they're a lock. They've got 8 Q1 wins. The end of season component was taken out overa decade ago.
        Your calling out is all 100%, but it doesn't even call out the part where he said Oklahoma State is fighting for an at large bid...they have a postseason ban this year. Also West Virginia is no longer on the bubble. KState? Sure, but that was a team they had beat when they weren't playing well.

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        • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

          Wow.

          That's all complete bull****.

          One more win and they're a lock. They've got 8 Q1 wins. The end of season component was taken out overa decade ago.
          Twenty wins might get Iowa State in the First Four, but that's two more wins. Those early wins over Iowa and Memphis happened an eternity ago. Twenty wins gets them in due to wins over Texas and Texas Tech. They better hold serve at home and beat Oklahoma State and West Virginia.
          Last edited by BrockLesnar; 02-22-2022, 06:02 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post

            Your calling out is all 100%, but it doesn't even call out the part where he said Oklahoma State is fighting for an at large bid...they have a postseason ban this year. Also West Virginia is no longer on the bubble. KState? Sure, but that was a team they had beat when they weren't playing well.
            They lost to K State at home. Now, they go to Manhatten, late.

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            • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post

              Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia are all humble and hungry trying to get the last at large. Home vs OSU and West Virginia road at Kansas State and Baylor. They need to get to 21 in the W column. Need a split and one at the conference tourney. I don't see it. Twenty in the win column might still do it, but I think it's a 1 seed in the NIT. The selection team frowns on late losses.
              Nope. I think one more win and they'd be right near the cut line and playing in Dayton. Two and I think they're safely in. Looking at the committee's initial Top 16 teams it is clear they value those Q1 wins - ISU has more Q1 wins than all but 2 teams in the country. As much as I'd love the see ISU suffer, one more win and I think they're in. Two and it's a lock.

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              • OMG who gives a s#it about the clones. Take that talk over to their board please.

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                • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post
                  I would like to see more of Anderson, Kimmons, and Henry at the end despite both games being must wins. To win three in three days at Arch Madness usually takes more than 7. Let the dead legs happen to someone else.
                  100% agree. These aren’t garbage minutes guys. They can not only keep legs fresh but also provide a spark or temporary match up problem and we should be putting them in for a few minutes each half. We’ve always utilized those type of guys well in the past.

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                  • Originally posted by unipanthers8907 View Post

                    Nope. I think one more win and they'd be right near the cut line and playing in Dayton. Two and I think they're safely in. Looking at the committee's initial Top 16 teams it is clear they value those Q1 wins - ISU has more Q1 wins than all but 2 teams in the country. As much as I'd love the see ISU suffer, one more win and I think they're in. Two and it's a lock.
                    That 21 win number I gave was to be safe to avoid Dayton. To get in I still say 20 wins. The Clowns have a net of 35. Losing 4 of 5 or 5 of 6 and 19 wins could slide their net past 50 and into the NIT. The morale of the story is to win and don't worry on Selection Sunday. I hope for Kyle Green's sake they get in and do some damage.
                    Last edited by BrockLesnar; 02-23-2022, 06:13 AM.

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                    • UNI's best case scenario would be to win out this week, win the valley tournament and win a game(s) in NCAA tournament. With Loyola a good possibility of getting an at large, UNI would be looking at 2 shares of NCAA tourney money for representing the MVC and because Loyola is leaving they may have to leave their share behind increasing the amount per share per year. I'm guessing Belmont and Murry would start their sharing of NCAA money after their first year. Just brainstorming the best for UNI financially.

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                      • Originally posted by northwest iowa panther View Post
                        UNI's best case scenario would be to win out this week, win the valley tournament and win a game(s) in NCAA tournament. With Loyola a good possibility of getting an at large, UNI would be looking at 2 shares of NCAA tourney money for representing the MVC and because Loyola is leaving they may have to leave their share behind increasing the amount per share per year. I'm guessing Belmont and Murry would start their sharing of NCAA money after their first year. Just brainstorming the best for UNI financially.
                        Pretty sure all of Loyola's shares from their past success and any this year stay with the conference when they leave. That is what Wichita gave up and the single shares that Creighton earned each year when they left since they never got past the first weekend.

                        The sad thing is Loyola is sitting almost even with Iowa State in most NET rankings I have seen and one is considered pretty much in and one is hovering on the ledge.

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                        • Originally posted by northwest iowa panther View Post
                          UNI's best case scenario would be to win out this week, win the valley tournament and win a game(s) in NCAA tournament. With Loyola a good possibility of getting an at large, UNI would be looking at 2 shares of NCAA tourney money for representing the MVC and because Loyola is leaving they may have to leave their share behind increasing the amount per share per year. I'm guessing Belmont and Murry would start their sharing of NCAA money after their first year. Just brainstorming the best for UNI financially.
                          I don't think Loyola gets in with two more losses. If Loyola wants in as an at-large they probably have to win out until the MVC Championship Game and then avoid a blowout loss.

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                          • We've been in the position Loyola is in before, and sometimes you just sit back and watch other people lose and your stock rises. I'd love for the conference to get two in, but if it doesn't happen... meh.
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                            • Inspired by the guys at MarchArchPod, I took a dive into the depths of MVC mediocrity in an attempt to dig up the single worst Valley basketball team this millennium. What was my conclusion? Click below, dear reader, to find out.

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                              • That's a really fun post, great job!

                                What if I told you that our bad years, while bad, weren't as awful as we make them out to be?

                                Eldon had a 4-14 year after he lost Blocker and Johnson but was then basically .500 after that. Sam Weaver was 6-12 and 7-11 before the bottom fell out and he started recruiting criminals. Mac's first two years were 8-10 and 7-11 before he turned it.

                                I think the biggest impact on attendance, other than the Dome being awful, was that Iowa and Iowa State were REALLY good at the time. Dr Tom had Iowa in the Sweet 16 and then all of the hype around Alford (l-o-freaking-l) and Iowa State was in the middle of their Elite 8 and back to back Big 12 title period. It was also before TV took total control of scheduling so we had TONS of nights where the other two would be on free, statewide TV and we were pretty much untelevised other than the few that KFXA picked up and the 3 or 4 MVC-TV games.

                                Now, Sam HAD to go but I think we might overestimate how bad we were. That said, I like now MUCH better lol.

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