The three state universities are going to keep playing each other no matter who the coaches are or what they want. The legislature/Bd of Regents will get involved if they have to. I really don't care if Drake is in the mix or not, they are a private school with primarily out of state students. The Dsm media promotes the idea of the big 4 and covers DU extensively, almost as much as UI and ISU while virtually ignoring UNI. I never gave a rats arse about DU until they got Davis as coach.
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There are too many people here showing love for Tom Davis (Iowa Legend), defending Wayne Morgan (Let him fry AMESPANTHER), go Panthers. See this is why I hate Basketball Season, too much love for the other programs in the state. I hope they all lose everygame except UNI. I guess I hope that Drake beats IA and ISU but that has nothing to do with how I used to yerk off thinking of Dr. Tom when I was a kid just DREAMING of becoming a Hawkeye, or begging Mom and Dad to pay $1000 so I could go to the IA basketball camp, have Dr. Tom show up and talk for five minutes and get a t shirt. As a short fat kid in Newton Iowa I hated the Hawkeyes, I still do. F*&K everyone, go Panthers.
Oh, and for who to root for during the Iowa, Iowa State Game, the same thing I root for during Football Season, a quick and painless death to put me out of my mysery.
OUTIllinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:
"White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."
You stay classy Redbirds.
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That's good old fashioned raw rage right there. I'm speechless. There is no love coming from me for Iowa b-ball (Alford is an idiot, and I hate Pierre Pierce with a passion), and Iowa State isn't much better (just because I've NEVER liked the Cyclones in anything). So I guess there's that part of it. Either way, though. I might have to restrained tomorrow when the teams take the court. GO CATS!
"Once it starts, it never ends."
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You're right. I totally forgot about that.Originally posted by UNIpanther99Actually UNI did win the state championship my junior year (97-98). They beat Iowa in the Dome and the Clones in Hilton... also swept Drake that year. It was Eldon Miller's last season. Darian DeVries (now a Creighton assistant coach) was one of our best players that year... it was a fun December, but unfortuantely the Panthers had a rough conference season after that.
Ames- I know what your saying, but the difference is (b/t Iowa and Iowa State), there has been a year and a half removed from the Pierce incident, while Vroman's run in/punishment happened the same year as the game. I think the Vroman should have been suspended around 5 or 6 regular season games (2 games for the DUI, and 3-4 for a second offense and illegal substance). It's not like he got a decent suspension, he got an extremely weak suspension. In the end, you're right, the state championship is going to go to the team that wins (regardless of who plays). All I was asking of last year was for Vroman not to play, b/c that was the "right and fair" thing to do. We lost, and there is not changing that. But, it would have been nice to have played that game on equal terms. Our law abiding players vs. ISU's law abiding players. That didn't happened, which is why I think UNI should have won, but regardless, ISU did win, and it's not always fair....which is unfortunate.The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.
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Jeg --Originally posted by jegbomb52There are too many people here showing love for Tom Davis (Iowa Legend), defending Wayne Morgan (Let him fry AMESPANTHER), go Panthers. See this is why I hate Basketball Season, too much love for the other programs in the state. I hope they all lose everygame except UNI. I guess I hope that Drake beats IA and ISU but that has nothing to do with how I used to yerk off thinking of Dr. Tom when I was a kid just DREAMING of becoming a Hawkeye, or begging Mom and Dad to pay $1000 so I could go to the IA basketball camp, have Dr. Tom show up and talk for five minutes and get a t shirt. As a short fat kid in Newton Iowa I hated the Hawkeyes, I still do. F*&K everyone, go Panthers.
Oh, and for who to root for during the Iowa, Iowa State Game, the same thing I root for during Football Season, a quick and painless death to put me out of my mysery.
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VERY well said and I support every bit of it. I will always root for Drake over ISU and Iowa... just so those schools know they're not as high and mighty as they think they are -- and because Drake is in our conference and it looks better for the MVC... but NOT because of Dr. Tom. As for the ISU/Iowa bball game... who cares?? I'm sure there'd be some bowling tournament on ESPN or something that would hold my interest much more...
Less than 24 hours to tip-off!! Come on Panthers -- take down the red & gold!!"...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."
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I remember that year well... there were t-shirts made that season about us being state champs... sure would be nice to be able to purchase one of those for the 2004-2005 campaign...Originally posted by UNIpanther99Guys, this is UNI's first real shot at winning the state championship (outside of maybe last year).
Actually UNI did win the state championship my junior year (97-98). They beat Iowa in the Dome and the Clones in Hilton... also swept Drake that year. It was Eldon Miller's last season. Darian DeVries (now a Creighton assistant coach) was one of our best players that year... it was a fun December, but unfortuantely the Panthers had a rough conference season after that.
"...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."
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The biggest thing to note is the class of player that ends up at UNI vs IA and ISU. Aside from the two football players (who have been suspended indefinately pending the investigation) UNI seems to bring in people who know how to keep there noses clean and represent the university with CLASS. That is something the IA and ISU basketball programs cannot claim.Originally posted by Panthers to the BoneYou're right. I totally forgot about that.
Ames- I know what your saying, but the difference is (b/t Iowa and Iowa State), there has been a year and a half removed from the Pierce incident, while Vroman's run in/punishment happened the same year as the game. I think the Vroman should have been suspended around 5 or 6 regular season games (2 games for the DUI, and 3-4 for a second offense and illegal substance). It's not like he got a decent suspension, he got an extremely weak suspension. In the end, you're right, the state championship is going to go to the team that wins (regardless of who plays). All I was asking of last year was for Vroman not to play, b/c that was the "right and fair" thing to do. We lost, and there is not changing that. But, it would have been nice to have played that game on equal terms. Our law abiding players vs. ISU's law abiding players. That didn't happened, which is why I think UNI should have won, but regardless, ISU did win, and it's not always fair....which is unfortunate.If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times
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[QUOTE=AmesPanther] I think PP should sit out this season until Big 10 play starts. But if Iowa beats UNI and ISU this year then that’s it, they won the state title, there’s no but PP wasn’t punished enough so Iowa isn’t the real winner.
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So you think that Pierce should have been suspended for 1 and a half years along with sitting out during his redshirt season?
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[QUOTE=tcondon]No not 1.5 years. Redshirting isn't a punishment you don't lose any eligibility; you don't sit any games. If they want to suspend him and have him loose a year of eligibility during that year that's fine; that would be a fair suspension. But since they redshirted him during his suspension year he should have to sit out some number of games in his first season back; which he didn't do.Originally posted by AmesPantherI think PP should sit out this season until Big 10 play starts. But if Iowa beats UNI and ISU this year then that’s it, they won the state title, there’s no but PP wasn’t punished enough so Iowa isn’t the real winner.
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So you think that Pierce should have been suspended for 1 and a half years along with sitting out during his redshirt season?
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Last year was his first season back though, not this season. That is why I wondering why you said he should sit out until the Big Ten season this year. I get what you're saying now.
Of course, I don't agree with the redshirt either, but that is/was another topic.
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How did Pierre Pierce get involved here? He is one of the best players in the Big Ten. He is way better than any of the Panther players. And to all of you Alford/Iowa haters, grow up. Get a life. That's why I will never ever go to a UNI game again because of your comments like this. What did Pierce do to you? You don't know him and I don't know him. It happened over 2 years ago. Get a life please. I hope ISU destroys UNI tonight. I can't stand you guys at all anymore. Iowa will be way better than UNI in everything. I can't wait to get out of this school. I'm looking forward to an Iowa beat down next Tuesday at Carver. Go Panthers, yeah right. Go Hawks!!!Let's Go Hawks!!!
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a few things i'd like to get out....
1. From most accounts Pierce has been a punk since high school, incidents during his time at Iowa have only revealed that more
2. I don't respect anyone that has the same haircut they did in 1988, unless you are Gene Keady, so Alford is out
3. As for the comment "Iowa will be way better than UNI in everything" Even in a down year, UNI took both games over Iowa in baseball last year, among other sports
get your facts straight, stop using panthernation as a place to vent about the obvious issues you have with the hand that's feeding you, and realize that Iowa City is not the Mecca of collegiate athletics.....
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