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Originally posted by Username View PostDuax-Heise-Wolf are going to command the large share of wing minutes
Rubin might get some 4 minutes if Tytan is out but I don’t see him playing tons outside the 5 esp with our relative lack of size
Tytan is a classic 4. A banger type with less offensive pollish but a glass cleaner and defender. Ability to hit the outside jumper but not really his game. Tuttle was a more modern 4. More offensive pollish with several back to the basket moves but also a more consistent shooter and passer. Wes is a 4 and will be more like Seth than Tytan.
We don't really have a 5 man this season. Cole and James are both more 4 types, although very different in skillet. If Austin returns next year he will take all the minutes he can handle and Cole/James will spell him because we have no backup 5, ala Dahl. But Wes playing along side Austin could be a great tandem.
I'm curious where Pock's minutes come from. He's closer to a wing than Wes is, but we are deep at both 3 and 4 next year. Could he redshirt? If anyone takes Wolf's minutes it will be Pock. But let's face it, Duax is taking Heise's minutes right now, and Wolf is taking what would've been Duax minutes. With Nate's return and Duax emergence, there won't be many minutes left over for Wolf or Pock. Jake has a very fun dilemma on his hands.
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Originally posted by orangetennis View PostThis. Wes is just not a wing. Wings are more outside than inside guys. They put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket. They take midrange jumpers, fadeaways and stepback threes. They will back down the occasional smaller defender but more ball handling and shooting than a 4. This is Duax-Heise-Wolf.
Tytan is a classic 4. A banger type with less offensive pollish but a glass cleaner and defender. Ability to hit the outside jumper but not really his game. Tuttle was a more modern 4. More offensive pollish with several back to the basket moves but also a more consistent shooter and passer. Wes is a 4 and will be more like Seth than Tytan.
We don't really have a 5 man this season. Cole and James are both more 4 types, although very different in skillet. If Austin returns next year he will take all the minutes he can handle and Cole/James will spell him because we have no backup 5, ala Dahl. But Wes playing along side Austin could be a great tandem.
I'm curious where Pock's minutes come from. He's closer to a wing than Wes is, but we are deep at both 3 and 4 next year. Could he redshirt? If anyone takes Wolf's minutes it will be Pock. But let's face it, Duax is taking Heise's minutes right now, and Wolf is taking what would've been Duax minutes. With Nate's return and Duax emergence, there won't be many minutes left over for Wolf or Pock. Jake has a very fun dilemma on his hands.
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Wolf's minutes aren't going anywhere. You don't take that shooting off the floor and he did a better job on DeVries than anybody else did the other night.
I get it, he doesn't LOOK athletic but he always seems to get to the spots he needs to get to and is probably our most fundamentally sound defender right now.
It's a fun problem to have for next year.#MACtion
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Originally posted by BCPanther View PostWolf's minutes aren't going anywhere. You don't take that shooting off the floor and he did a better job on DeVries than anybody else did the other night.
I get it, he doesn't LOOK athletic but he always seems to get to the spots he needs to get to and is probably our most fundamentally sound defender right now.
It's a fun problem to have for next year.
Born
Heise
Tytan
Trey
Phyfe
Cole
Duax
Wolf
Ege
Rubin
Add Pock or Betz into the rotation if Phyfe is a no go.
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Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post
Agreed, although I don't agree about the defense part. Everytime Wolf got switched onto Penn Wednesday he got destroyed. He did do a good job in Des Moines though. I'm foreseeing, best case scenario, we have a rotation like this:
Born
Heise
Tytan
Trey
Phyfe
Cole
Duax
Wolf
Ege
Rubin
Add Pock or Betz into the rotation if Phyfe is a no go.#MACtion
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Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post
Agreed, although I don't agree about the defense part. Everytime Wolf got switched onto Penn Wednesday he got destroyed. He did do a good job in Des Moines though. I'm foreseeing, best case scenario, we have a rotation like this:
Born
Heise
Tytan
Trey
Phyfe
Cole
Duax
Wolf
Ege
Rubin
Add Pock or Betz into the rotation if Phyfe is a no go.
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Originally posted by PantherAlum09 View Post
These lineups are what I'm talking about when I say we will have two starting 5 calber groups. This doesn't even include RJ. Our depth is going to be nuts next year as long as health is good. I'm guessing that there may be some adjustments to personnel within these groups, but this would have to be the deepest team in the conference. Jake is going to have to figure out rotations, which is not an easy task, but I am pumped to see how it all shakes out.
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Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post
I just don't see RJ getting to the floor year 1. He certainly appears to be the real deal, but we already have Trey, Bowen, Ege, and in case of emergency break glass Cole. I just can't see him on the floor from the jump, though I could be wrong.
He is a the true ballhandling, distributing point guard that this team doesn't have right now and needs badly. Plus, Michigan's Mr Basketball isn't coming to UNI to sit.#MACtion
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Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
You're wrong. Big time.
He is a the true ballhandling, distributing point guard that this team doesn't have right now and needs badly. Plus, Michigan's Mr Basketball isn't coming to UNI to sit.
Last edited by PantherAlum09; 02-17-2023, 09:53 AM.
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Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post
I just don't see RJ getting to the floor year 1. He certainly appears to be the real deal, but we already have Trey, Bowen, Ege, and in case of emergency break glass Cole. I just can't see him on the floor from the jump, though I could be wrong.
There's a strong chance Ege is not back next season.
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Originally posted by orangetennis View Post
I think RJ walks onto campus ahead of Ege. Were it not for Born's size, he might even start day 1. But we can't play Bowen next to RJ very often. It's just too small.
There's a strong chance Ege is not back next season.
While I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes the odd man out, he's starting to get some minutes, showing some promise, and unlike RJ is able to play next to Bowen in spurts. Don't discount the added year in the program either. Ege wasn't a part of the plan until this summer, another year could help with settling in.
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