Official BYU game Thread

[clenz]

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The fumble for the TD was caused by your team. another one maybe... a freshman running back ... the other fumbles no. Our receive caused one ofthem and a bad snap was the other.

Fumbles and turnovers happen every game it was good hustle on your teams part to recover them. Too bad you only capitalized on one of them.

Another post game though was with the refs. Some calls were questionable but with the rule changes/ cautions the refs will throw the flag everytime the DB's helmet hits the helmet of the receiver. (new precautions this year)

What about the fact our defense was ripping at the ball on every tackle? That had nothing to do with the fumbles?

The hit on the WR wasn't helmet to helmet, it was should to chest. What about helmet to helmet on a QB...twice?

[JayJ79]

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Went back and read some more posts...

Can't respect a fanbase that talks tough leading up to the game, but doesn't have the respect to acknowledge that they simply got beat after the game.

It ends up being the refs, or hits that you think should have been called, or headsets... or some other stupid bull crap to cop out of accepting a loss.

Sad.

I, for one, didn't "talk tough" before the game.
And I'm not blaming the loss on the refs blown calls or the sh#tty equipment you guys gave us. BYU outplayed UNI. And if everything had been fair, y'all probably would have still won by 14-17.

But I'll argue about dangerous hits on our QB under any circumstances.

[clenz]

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Went back and read some more posts...

Can't respect a fanbase that talks tough leading up to the game, but doesn't have the respect to acknowledge that they simply got beat after the game.

It ends up being the refs, or hits that you think should have been called, or headsets... or some other stupid bull crap to cop out of accepting a loss.

Sad.

i'll make sure to check your board after the Utah game if you lose

[Mountain Panther]

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No doubt. I'm sure BYU's headsets worked just fine......

And the phone line used by Rima & crew kept cutting out.
For a supposedly "big time" FBS program/facility, BYU has some sh#tty equipment.

This has nothing to do with BYU but The Mountain's coverage was average at best. Cameraman missing plays, going to black for no reason, audio cutting out, etc.

[coug]

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WRONG. The athletic training staff determines when players are not well enough to play. The coaches had absolutely NO say in that. If he was not well enough to play, he would not have been back in there. Period.

And when our reciever caught that ball where you said he was out of bounds, you are wrong again. His heel did come down out of bounds, but his toes came down in bounds, thus making it a catch.

And when you say "at least they werent pac 10 refs, does that mean that they cost you the game when you cant beat pac 10 teams? mmm, sounds familiar.

Dude, if any part of you is out of bounds when you come down, you are out. It doesn't matter at all if a toe is in bounds. You are still out. No wonder you thought the refs were awful. You don't understand the basic rules.

Your trainers report to your coaches. The coaching staff was reckless. Grace clearly was in agony. Who didn't see that injury coming after what he went through? It is all the more shameless given that the game was totally out of reach when he got injured, and even worse when you realize that even an amazing comeback to beat BYU does nothing to get you your I-AA title. The coaches were reckless. They determine who goes in and who goes out. The trainers don't tell Grace to get back in the game. The coaches do, and you know it. I hope the young man is ok.

[06panther10]

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I think you mean "when", Clenz...

[clenz]

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This has nothing to do with BYU but The Mountain's coverage was average at best. Cameraman missing plays, going to black for no reason, audio cutting out, etc.

This is true. It also looked like high quality internet feed at best

[clenz]

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Dude, if any part of you is out of bounds when you come down, you are out. It doesn't matter at all if a toe is in bounds. You are still out. No wonder you thought the refs were awful. You don't understand the basic rules.

Your trainers report to your coaches. The coaching staff was reckless. Grace clearly was in agony. Who didn't see that injury coming after what he went through? It is all the more shameless given that the game was totally out of reach when he got injured, and even worse when you realize that even an amazing comeback to beat BYU does nothing to get you your I-AA title. The coaches were reckless. They determine who goes in and who goes out. The trainers don't tell Grace to get back in the game. The coaches do, and you know it. I hope the young man is ok.

His toes hit before his heal...thus making it a catch.

Grace would not have played it he was unfit to play...end of story

[Mountain Panther]

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Went back and read some more posts...

Can't respect a fanbase that talks tough leading up to the game, but doesn't have the respect to acknowledge that they simply got beat after the game.

It ends up being the refs, or hits that you think should have been called, or headsets... or some other stupid bull crap to cop out of accepting a loss.

Sad.

Take away all the penalties and fumbles are questionable calls and you still win the game.

[06panther10]

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Dude, if any part of you is out of bounds when you come down, you are out. It doesn't matter at all if a toe is in bounds. You are still out. No wonder you thought the refs were awful. You don't understand the basic rules.

Your trainers report to your coaches. The coaching staff was reckless. Grace clearly was in agony. Who didn't see that injury coming after what he went through? It is all the more shameless given that the game was totally out of reach when he got injured, and even worse when you realize that even an amazing comeback to beat BYU does nothing to get you your I-AA title. The coaches were reckless. They determine who goes in and who goes out. The trainers don't tell Grace to get back in the game. The coaches do, and you know it. I hope the young man is ok.

The toe came down BEFORE the heel, and it was in bounds, making it a catch.

If the athletic trainer says that he cannot play. The coaches absolutley cannot put that player back in. They report to the coaches and tell them if they are OK to play again.

[coug]

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This game doesn't matter? Complete bull. If it didn't matter we wouldn't have played it.

It doesn't matter as far as your chances of winning a I-AA title go. It would have been a nice win, and would have helped build the program if you do win. But no sane coach in America would risk the health of the star player on his team once it was clear he was in pain to keep him in a game that was already unwinnable.

[clenz]

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Take away all the penalties and fumbles are questionable calls and you still win the game.

Who had denied that BYU would have still won?

[clenz]

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It doesn't matter as far as your chances of winning a I-AA title go. It would have been a nice win, and would have helped build the program if you do win. But no sane coach in America would risk the health of the star player on his team once it was clear he was in pain to keep him in a game that was already unwinnable.

USD doesn't matter to us either then. I guess we should play our 3rd stringers all of next week?



Also what is 1AA?

[coug]

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The toe came down BEFORE the heel, and it was in bounds, making it a catch.

If the athletic trainer says that he cannot play. The coaches absolutley cannot put that player back in. They report to the coaches and tell them if they are OK to play again.

From my couch, I knew he wasn't ok. I could see he was going to get hurt, and badly. Every single time he took a hit he came up in agony, holding his back. It was absolutely obvious that one big hit could do some real damage. You can stick up for your coaches if you want, but both you and I know the truth.

The toe didn't come down first, either. Not that it matters at all. He came down flat footed.

[Mountain Panther]

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Who had denied that BYU would have still won?

Just don't want to give BYU fans the impression that bad calls and fumbles cost us the game.

See FierceArc's post #116