Embarrassment 2

[GonzoCat]

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I don't understand why they announced mid-week that there were only 1,000 tickets left for this game. Are they trying to trick people into thinking it's a hot ticket and they better get it fast? End up looking ridiculous with a half empty east side.

Or is it that they reserve 4,000 seats for students and only 1,000 get taken? If that is the case they need to cut back the student allotment.

It seems we cannot sell more than 75% of the tickets for a game at full price unless it is a game that is perceived to be "huge" by the general public/student body who generally don't have a clue. The decision then for the AD is whether it is better to sell 75% of the seats at full price or give away thousands of tickets to get a full house. Revenue wise it may very well be better to only sell the 75% at full price.

Thank God the TV cameras were pointed at the west side. The place looked pretty full.

[JayJ79]

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I don't understand why they announced mid-week that there were only 1,000 tickets left for this game. Are they trying to trick people into thinking it's a hot ticket and they better get it fast? End up looking ridiculous with a half empty east side.

Or is it that they reserve 4,000 seats for students and only 1,000 get taken? If that is the case they need to cut back the student allotment.

It seems we cannot sell more than 75% of the tickets for a game at full price unless it is a game that is perceived to be "huge" by the general public/student body who generally don't have a clue. The decision then for the AD is whether it is better to sell 75% of the seats at full price or give away thousands of tickets to get a full house. Revenue wise it may very well be better to only sell the 75% at full price.

Thank God the TV cameras were pointed at the west side. The place looked pretty full.

I'm almost convinced that they (the athletic department, ticket office, whoever) makes an effort to fill the West side first for TV games. Which might make things look okay on TV, but it looks really bad in person to have half the east side empty.

Maybe bringing back General Admission tickets on the east side would help. But who knows.


But anyhow, one thing is certain: NDSU has a much bigger, and more loyal fanbase than we do. They have no problem getting sellouts (in a 19,000 seat stadium), even when their team is in a bit of a down year. Not to mention bringing a thousand or two to a road game.

[Purrrrrfect]

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I have already submitted a letter to Mr. Dannen and the Ath. deparment regarding the problem from yesterday.

I feel that although it may take students away. it should be done.
I feel tickets can only be inherited if the student is there until the fourth quarter.

The student section was absolutely pathetic after halftime, as usual.

[UNIDadx3]

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NDSU has only the UND to compete with on game day. There is nothing else in North Dakota. We competed for a crowd with Iowa and ISU yesterday with popular WI and NE afternoon home games. They announced over 13,000 tickets sold ($26). Maybe not so bad considering the week after HC, a new opponent, and the FBS competition next door.

[kpanther]

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Here's one possible reason...

Back when I was a student at UNI in the mid-90's, the weekend after Homecoming was always a big weekend for a lot of students to go home for the weekend, regardless of who the football team was playing.

If that is the reason for tonight's lackluster student attendance, it looks like that dynamic hasn't changed.

This is right on. With 90% of the students from Iowa, UNI has always been a suitcase college. I'm an alum and it was during that time and still is. That is why the students were not at the game. Sitting on the West side though, it was very disappointing to see all of the empty seats on the East side. Especially after tickets were only available in the end zone seating are up until Thursday. It's quite the challenge. We want and need the students at the game. However, when they do not show up they are displacing purchases by retail paying fans who are then forced to sit in the worst seats in the house.

[Tango Charlie]

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Attendance on the "East" side was an embarrassment last night.

Back in the 60's and into the 70's with 95% of the students from Iowa(around 7K) people stayed on campus and turned out for all events. The old Mens(West) Gym would be full for wrestling and basketball. The crowds were primarily students. O.R. Latham Stadium would also have big student crowds.
i would guess the student attendence with half the enrollment was as high or higher than now at all on campus events.

Our two "Nationally" televised games have had the worst attendence this year.

Time for a blackout ?

[clenz]

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UNI students, for the most part, are not really UNI fans. They go to the UNI games and cheer for UNI because that is where they go. However, I see so many Iowa shirts on campus. I see students trying to find tickets to Iowa games every time they have a home game, whether UNI has a home game or not. I know some people who won't tailgate if Iowa has a game on TV, because they have to "see how their Hawks are doing".

The student section is bad, and the no GA rule needs to go. It was horrible how empty the NE side of the dome was. The students that are in the first 10 rows of the student section actually care about the UNI game, outside of those students I wouuld be 80-95% of the rest are there for the social aspect of it, or because they didn't get Iowa or Iowa State tickets.

The apartment complex I live in is half empty starting Thursday afternoon. The students a) go home, b) go to IC or c) go to Ames.

I would love to see GA brought back to fill that side of the Dome. I would put up with the people yelling at me because I'm blocking their view to have the dome full.

[panthertrack]

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UNI students, for the most part, are not really UNI fans. They go to the UNI games and cheer for UNI because that is where they go. However, I see so many Iowa shirts on campus. I see students trying to find tickets to Iowa games every time they have a home game, whether UNI has a home game or not. I know some people who won't tailgate if Iowa has a game on TV, because they have to "see how their Hawks are doing".

The student section is bad, and the no GA rule needs to go. It was horrible how empty the NE side of the dome was. The students that are in the first 10 rows of the student section actually care about the UNI game, outside of those students I wouuld be 80-95% of the rest are there for the social aspect of it, or because they didn't get Iowa or Iowa State tickets.

The apartment complex I live in is half empty starting Thursday afternoon. The students a) go home, b) go to IC or c) go to Ames.

I would love to see GA brought back to fill that side of the Dome. I would put up with the people yelling at me because I'm blocking their view to have the dome full.

80-90 percent of college students go to football games for the social aspect?

My GOD! Any other startling revelations today, Clark?

Seriously, some of you need to get a life - or something better to complain about. Students not cheering/attending a football team's games shouldn't be on your list of priorities in life to be worried about.

Only 1,000 students turned out to watch UNI football?

[clenz]

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80-90 percent of college students go to football games for the social aspect?

My GOD! Any other startling revelations today, Clark?

Seriously, some of you need to get a life - or something better to complain about. Students not cheering/attending a football team's games shouldn't be on your list of priorities in life to be worried about.

Only 1,000 students turned out to watch UNI football?

I said UNI students, not college students in general. Do you go to UNI games? If you did, and you saw that the student section is easily half of what it was 2 minutes into halftime you would understand what I'm saying. If, you do stick around to the second half, just watch how many of the students are just sitting there talking to their friends instead of watching the game. 80-90% may have been high, but at UNI it is around 60%. I have a feeling, and I may be wrong, that if they actually went for the football they wouldn't at halftime, or before, in the case of many.

[TravelingPanther]

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The students came out in FORCE for South Dakota, South Dakota State and for Homecoming.

....and left early.

[Newsbreaker]

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NDSU has only the UND to compete with on game day. There is nothing else in North Dakota. We competed for a crowd with Iowa and ISU yesterday with popular WI and NE afternoon home games. They announced over 13,000 tickets sold ($26). Maybe not so bad considering the week after HC, a new opponent, and the FBS competition next door.

Good post. Iowa and ISU both had their biggest home conference rivalry games of the year yesterday, we were playing a school nobody had ever heard of, and it was the weekend after homecoming (always a problem at UNI).

In terms of the NDSU fanbase, remember they and SDSU are the only schools in our league where they are the athletic teams in their states. They have no other Division I schools to compete with, no pro sports, nothing.

Really, their fairly large section was really loud before kickoff, and then upon getting shouted down by 300 of UNI's finest () they completely went away.

To recap:

Pathetically small UNI Student Section > NDSU fanbase.

[UNIChippewa]

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On a different tangent related to the topic...

I've heard a lot of people, even when I was a student, refer to UNI as a "suitcase school", and I never really felt that was very accurate in any of the five years I went to UNI. Maybe it was just the social circles I hung out in, but to me it always felt like there were plenty of people on weekends for me to hang out and drink beer with.

Just my two cents....I do think that the weekend after Homecoming is always a lame weekend for UNI, and has been for a long time.

[Newsbreaker]

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On a different tangent related to the topic...

I've heard a lot of people, even when I was a student, refer to UNI as a "suitcase school", and I never really felt that was very accurate in any of the five years I went to UNI. Maybe it was just the social circles I hung out in, but to me it always felt like there were plenty of people on weekends for me to hang out and drink beer with.

Just my two cents....I do think that the weekend after Homecoming is always a lame weekend for UNI, and has been for a long time.

I've always said that 10% of UNI stays every weekend and is "out" at the various bars. Another 20% or so stays every weekend but doesn't go out much. About 20% go home every weekend, and the remaining 50% roam between the other categories.

I worked at what was, at the time, a very popular UNI nightspot, and of the several hundred people we'd have through over the weekend, it was 75% the same people every single night/week. UNI has a good nightlife, but it's a relatively small group of people that comprise the "scene."

[BtownPantherfan]

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Being a student, I've been disappointed by the lack of student attendance, especially after halftime this year. To those who wonder why this game didn't have the attendance that SD,SDst, and IlSt did, I guess you could look at it that those games were the first home game of the year, parent's weekend, and homecoming, respectively. The Thursday night game wasn't that well attended either.

To those people who sit on the west side and notice a half empty student section and are upset about it: would you rather that the top half of the section be filled with students that wouldn't cheer anyway? I'm not trying to start an argument with that question, just wondering. The students that actually root for UNI and cheer for UNI are the ones that are already there, and actually stay for the entire game, as I do. Believe me, it frustrates me too, that people can't stay or even care about UNI. It's not like a lot happens from 4pm-7pm on Saturday. But, the UNI fans that are there can't change people's minds who've liked Iowa or ISU for their whole life. As mentioned before, the other two public universities were playing their two biggest conference rivals this weekend, but I think regardless you'd see the same thing.

On a lighter note, maybe those students that leave early, just want to get to Beck's early for that free keg after every UNI home victory.

[Newsbreaker]

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If the top half were filled with students, they might not be rabid, but they would cheer.