Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

[BCPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended



Johnny Gray being led away.

The KWWL article makes no mention of Lloyd and Harris. Hopefully they are safely in Terre Haute right now...

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

The more I think about this, the angrier I get. Johnny Gray was liked by so many people and had built a great career for himself at UNI. In his final days as a UNI football player, this is how he will now be remembered. It's just sad. I know this kind of stuff happens in sports all the time, but it still doesn't make it less disappointing or saddening when it happens to one of our own. And even though I'd heard "stuff" over the years, I always shrugged it off as speculation and rumor... it's just too bad.

[Panthers#1]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Here you go.
This sucks.

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2...4689131609.txt

[FMPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

The more I think about this, the angrier I get. Johnny Gray was liked by so many people and had built a great career for himself at UNI. In his final days as a UNI football player, this is how he will now be remembered. It's just sad. I know this kind of stuff happens in sports all the time, but it still doesn't make it less disappointing or saddening when it happens to one of our own. And even though I'd heard "stuff" over the years, I always shrugged it off as speculation and rumor... it's just too bad.

Just another reason that folks ought to not get too wrapped up in this.

They're college kids.

[Trapped in California]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

The problem is that pot has been shown to have actual medical benefits. I can't think of any other illegal drug that has the same qualities. And I don't seen any benefits to alcohol.

It's like the joke I saw on some stand up show: All pot ever did was make people happy, hungry, and horny.

Alcohol has medical uses as a cleaner & a depressant, it is just not used that way.

Currently MJ is illegal. I deal with the after-affects daily in my role as owner of a company that does drug testing and criminal background checks. There is a high (no pun) correlation of property crimes (theft, etc.) and drug use/abuse.

I really don't care if the they legalize MJ, crack or meth. Fine. As long as I am not required to pay for their health care later on, or social services because they have lost their job since they are busy getting high. In my world, DWI positive test result results in lifetime ban on a getting a driver's license. Second time, summary execution.

If people believe this will somehow solve the crime issue, visit the Netherlands, Paris, or parts of California. You will change you mind.

[UNI Fight]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Suspended for now, possibly dismissed from team? We'll find out.

http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=9351467

The KWWL website only says Johnny Gray, Victor Williams and a young woman named Sarah Woods were arrested. How sure are you that Darrell Lloyd and De'Veon Harris are involved?

I had always heard rumors on campus about Gray's involvement with this stuff (i.e. selling) but had hoped they were just rumors. This is what you call "throwing it all away".

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Johnny's ability to take a punt or kickoff back every time he touches it makes the other teams completely change their special teams strategy. We will lose a lot of field position with this.

Jarred Herring is averaging 27.2 yards per kick return this year, compared to Gray's 16.8. So I'm not sure we lose ALL that much.

Granted, punt returns are slightly different. But still, I don't see us losing A LOT of field position.

The only question mark would be who else we have deep on kickoffs other than Herring.

[CincyPanther88]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

So have Lloyd and Harris been suspended? It doesn't appear they've been arrested.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

It is a lot easier to tell when someone is drunk than when someone is high, trust me.

[joecooll6]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Wow, what a positive post. joecooll6......you really are cool. Will you marry one of my daughters?

Yes .

[Panther-at-Arms]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

IIRC, possession over a certain amount triggers an "intent" charge. Now if they were being investigated for dealing, that's a different story.

Actually, no, its not a different story. It's the same charge. Iowa Code 124.401

[BCPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Jarred Herring is averaging 27.2 yards per kick return this year, compared to Gray's 16.8. So I'm not sure we lose ALL that much.

Granted, punt returns are slightly different. But still, I don't see us losing A LOT of field position.

The only question mark would be who else we have deep on kickoffs other than Herring.

I would guess that Craig James becomes the other deep guy. He has been back there a few times this year...

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Johnny's ability to take a punt or kickoff back every time he touches it makes the other teams completely change their special teams strategy. We will lose a lot of field position with this.

Have you seen Herring? He faster and has the moves.

[run&blade]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Great, my 9 year old thinks Johnny Gray is the greast thing ever. Waited in line for his autograph a few times after games and finally got it last week. I guess I get to have a talk to him about how we really don't know any of these guys. I will be sure to add that almost all of the players are probably good people and not to let a few bad apples get him down.

Breaking the law is breaking the law, even if you don't agree with it.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

You don't need pot for its medicinal uses. There is a prescription alternative for that.

Yes it makes ppl happy hungry and horny. And paranoid. And stupid. And stoned.

FWIW you CAN get an OWI on drugs.

The prescription alternatives aren't much better, IMO. They're just legal because the pharmeceutical companies and their lobbyists can get a better cut of the profits on them.