Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

FWIW, I REALLY like James from what I have seen. He just seems to have a certain swagger and carries himself on the field remniscent of Dre Dokes etc.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Mr. 9YRPLAN seems to be the only one on the board at this point who thinks they didn't make the trip to INDSU.

wait wait wait...i DID NOT say that. all i know is that ive had people tell me they were suspended, and others tell me they THINK they made the trip. far from definitive either way.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

wait wait wait...i DID NOT say that. all i know is that ive had people tell me they were suspended, and others tell me they THINK they made the trip. far from definitive either way.

I don't know any facts on the matter.
But I could imagine that they might have been kept off the plane so that the matter could be sorted out, and thus wouldn't make the trip to TH.

However, I don't see them getting suspended unless they end up with charges against them too.

[UNI Fight]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

If you have thin skin and this kind of story is "devstating" to you, then I think you better move on from being a fan of athletics, unfortunately. I'd be willing to bet dollars and donuts that this won't be the last time we are let down by the inevitable stupidity of a college student...athlete or not. Unfortunately, we should probably go to bed every night thankful that someone else hasn't yet gotten caught...cuz I can guarantee you that these two ain't the only ones doing something illegal...and that goes for participants in everything from student government or softball or football or debate or glee club.

While there is some truth to this I don't think that we as fans should ever accept this as the status quo. We should demand more from our students and student athletes. Always.

[FMPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Nah, the college kids argument doesn't cut it for me. Maybe I'm a hard a$$, but a law's a law, and if you break the law you are breaking public confidence and security. It goes for underage drinking, public intox, or drug use. We implement laws in order to maintain an orderly, functioning society, and to blow off an offense because someone's young simply sends to others the message that any disorderly behavior is permissable. These guys were handed an education and a golden opportunity simply because they played a child's game well, and they couldn't handle that breaking the law in order to have a little fun and potentially some side profit, if the charges are correct. Nail 'em to the wall.

if that was directed at me, then you completely missed the point.

if people invest this much time and energy into the performance and activities of college-age kids, well, sometime you find these things out.

[BCPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

I think that Lloyd and Harris made the trip. If they were suspended they would have been mentioned in Dannen's statement and they were not. The new update to the Courier story still doesn't mention them...

I am fairly confident they made the trip...

[P. compressa]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

I know of certain former players that smoked/smoke the herb and are still quite well liked.
So I suppose Gray's mistake was that he got caught.

Or his mistake is that he actually did distribute it causing an investigation and then got caught. The real mistake is selling it.

It is sad that with essentially 1 month left in either of their football careers they couldn't put down the herb and say, "you know I will take a month off for the good of my mates."

Many kids at the UNiversity smoke, and the police look the other way, very few distribute and they usually are pursued. I just hope that when push come to shove Gray sells out (and dealers usually do), up the distribution line not down it to some of his mates.

Then again he possibly just keeps everyones stuff in his room to protect his mates and actually does not distribute. No one will no for a while.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

While there is some truth to this I don't think that we as fans should ever accept this as the status quo. We should demand more from our students and student athletes. Always.

Big difference between accepting the behavior and being surprised or devastated by it. I am far from condoning it, but when its all said and done, whether I "accept it" or not, I don't have ANY control over it, so I can't allow myself to be ruined by news like this. Not poking at you either, but what can REALLY be done besides eliminating the problem causers once they are caught? Until we get a system like from the movie Minority Report (great flick), we can't kick people off the team before they commit the crime.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" will now be replaced by Jimmi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" in the pregame.

[Mountain Panther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" will now be replaced by Jimmi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" in the pregame.

Awesome....for more than one reason.

[panther84]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

So I've seen a few posts (including a couple by myself) asking what's been up with Johnny Gray this year.....hasn't been playing like the old Johnny.

We now know why!

[Former_Gator_84_88]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

I would guess that Craig James becomes the other deep guy. He has been back there a few times this year...

That's what i was told by Craig although this is NOT how he wanted to earn it he says.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

That's what i was told by Craig although this is NOT how he wanted to earn it he says.

Woo Hoo...hungry players getting their shot. I love it!! The team has to rally around this. This is an opportunity to have that focus sharpened entering the home stretch.

[Former_Gator_84_88]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Craig James has talent, you cant deny that. A certain Mr. Cody Kirby found that out the hard way during the 4th quarter last week. But, you obviously have a bit of a biased opinion. If he gets a chance to show what he can do, he certainly has potential to be a very very good player.

LOL...Come on Joe...not TOOOOO bias

[UNI Fight]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

So I've seen a few posts (including a couple by myself) asking what's been up with Johnny Gray this year.....hasn't been playing like the old Johnny.

We now know why!

From the things I've been hearing on campus for 2-3 years it may be a wonder that he hasn't been arrested prior to today. The news today seems to confirm at least some of those rumors. It's just a terrible waste.