2 Iowa football players to transfer

[SteinPizza]

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i dont think they do it on purpose, but there are several examples of questionable personnel decisions. (JC, Grigsby, shada)

One other thing. Star rankings are only a measure of physical ability compared to other high school kids. They don't mean a lot after high school for several reasons, but one of the biggest is the players' ability to fit into and play within a scheme. Another is football IQ, which often goes in tandem with playing within the scheme. You're way overrating high school results by saying so-and-so should start...at least in some cases if that's your basis.

[clenz]

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One other thing. Star rankings are only a measure of physical ability compared to other high school kids. They don't mean a lot after high school for several reasons, but one of the biggest is the players' ability to fit into and play within a scheme. Another is football IQ, which often goes in tandem with playing within the scheme. You're way overrating high school results by saying so-and-so should start...at least in some cases if that's your basis.

Star rankings are based mostly on schools offered and school that are interested. I've saw a kid go from 1 start to 4 stars in a matter of 3 days because he picked up offers from Texas, Ohio State, and Michigan.


A kid didn't get that much better in 3 days.

[Panther789]

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Star rankings are based mostly on schools offered and school that are interested. I've saw a kid go from 1 start to 4 stars in a matter of 3 days because he picked up offers from Texas, Ohio State, and Michigan.


A kid didn't get that much better in 3 days.

I hear this a lot, but I guess it makes sense to me. I trust Mack Brown, Jim Tressel and Rich Rod more than some geek at rivals. If they all 3 want a kid, chances are he is better than some kid with offers from a couple of MAC schools.

[9YRPLAN]

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its not like morrow was never on the field. he played ST and backed up safety. he showed flashes of ability.

[Roy Fleming]

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Ya, best transfter EVER, because he is a 4 star that went to Iowa. He could rank right up there with the ranks of Chris Gustafson, Richard Pope, Dru Grigson. Probably the three highest ranked high school players that ever played at UNI, I think Gustafson was even a 5 star in his day. Do you know what they all had in common? They all flopped.

Let them go to Western Illinois or Deleware.

I've never understood the people on this site who get all bend out of shape when people say Iowa (and other BCS schools) are far superior in talent to UNI...but when a transfer is available they go all ga-ga over him.

If a second string (or lower) player from Iowa can be an immediate impact player for UNI...well...then UNI would be pretty inferior talent level wise to Iowa, right?

[clenz]

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I've never understood the people on this site who get all bend out of shape when people say Iowa (and other BCS schools) are far superior in talent to UNI...but when a transfer is available they go all ga-ga over him.

If a second string (or lower) player from Iowa can be an immediate impact player for UNI...well...then UNI would be pretty inferior talent level wise to Iowa, right?

Not necessarily. I think in this case, depth wise, the talent is inferior. However, UNI has players that don't start that could go to Iowa and be decent players. It is a 2 way street.

[jegbomb52]

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There is no question that the talent level at BCS schools is superior to that of a FCS I-AA school like UNI. No question. My post was mainly directed at those that said "if UNI would get morrow, it would potentially be one of the best incoming transfers ever" simply because he was a 4 star recruit that went to Iowa. I was mainly trying to show the "lack of credibility" that the star system plus being an "Iowa Transfer" had.

[Cap'n Cat]

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There is no question that the talent level at BCS schools is superior to that of a FCS I-AA school like UNI. No question. My post was mainly directed at those that said "if UNI would get morrow, it would potentially be one of the best incoming transfers ever" simply because he was a 4 star recruit that went to Iowa. I was mainly trying to show the "lack of credibility" that the star system plus being an "Iowa Transfer" had.

Agree with jegger and the reverse is true, too. I was probably a two-star coming out of high school back in 1980, but I turned into the greatest O-lineman ever to grace the turf in the UNIDome.

[jegbomb52]

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Cap, you sure you can't stop in St. Louis for a day or two?

[Roy Fleming]

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Jeg -

I tend to agree with you on this issue...sorry if I did not make that clear. I understand that there are exceptions to the rule (that stud QB transfer a few years back that went down to a concussion against McNeese comes to mind). In general, I favor the idea of JC transfers more than I-A transfers.

[bobsboy84]

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Agree with jegger and the reverse is true, too. I was probably a two-star coming out of high school back in 1980, but I turned into the greatest O-lineman ever to grace the turf in the UNIDome.

HOF material? I hope so, then we can find out your real name.

[9YRPLAN]

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i said that he would be one of the best transfers ever because (and obviously this is an opinion) we need good d-backs and he is a great athlete that for some reason didnt fit in to what iowa needed from him.

there are plenty of UNI players that would succeed at iowa. that is whats great about college football....you never quite know how a particular player will fit into a certain setting or scheme.

[UNI Prof]

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i said that he would be one of the best transfers ever because (and obviously this is an opinion) we need good d-backs and he is a great athlete that for some reason didnt fit in to what iowa needed from him.

there are plenty of UNI players that would succeed at iowa. that is whats great about college football....you never quite know how a particular player will fit into a certain setting or scheme.

Or, in the case of high school recruits, how they will physically mature. In a lot of cases, UNI develops some outstanding talent.

[9YRPLAN]

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They are not far superior in talent to UNI, they are slightly superior on average and in many specific cases inferior at certain positions. Who exactly is going all ga-ga over these transfers?

I always figure if a player isn't good enough to start at a BCS school he isn't good enough to start at UNI. Most of the starters at BCS schools are good enough to start at UNI, but most of the bench isn't. As with anything there are exceptions.

interesting. what is UNI's all-time record versus FBS teams?

I'm all for the school spirit and optimism, but I think you are completely wrong.

[Roy Fleming]

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They are not far superior in talent to UNI, they are slightly superior on average and in many specific cases inferior at certain positions. Who exactly is going all ga-ga over these transfers?

I always figure if a player isn't good enough to start at a BCS school he isn't good enough to start at UNI. Most of the starters at BCS schools are good enough to start at UNI, but most of the bench isn't. As with anything there are exceptions.

Earl - Sure...no one has gone ga-ga yet over these two...but just wait until next summer. There will be more than a few threads where people will get all excited about the latest USC or Ohio State kid looking to transfer to an FCS school.

Maybe this summer will be different. I think we all think that UNI is set right now to be excellent in 2009.