What will it take?

[MediaPanther]

Re: What will it take?

If Steichen isn't suspended for the opener, Farley is selling his soul to the devil.

So in other words Ferentz is also selling his soul for not suspending Adrian Clayborn?

[06panther10]

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'07 Panthers > '05 Panthers

Definitely.

[06panther10]

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1992 UNI was better than 05, and probably a couple other 90s teams. I do not think I would say the 07 team was better than 05, but the 05 team was not the best team we have ever had. They were very good, but they just really came together at the right time unlike some of the other teams we have had. Kenny Shedd being healthy and maybe the 92 team goes to the championship, but these are all ifs and buts.

I disagree. I think the teams of the Farley era are much better than the old teams from the 90's. I think that is why we never sniffed a national title back with those old teams. We are much more of a national contender now.

[06panther10]

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I bet panthertrack will be wearing his hawkeye shirt to the game.

[ubuntuCAT]

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If Steichen isn't suspended for the opener, Farley is selling his soul to the devil.

So you have some insider information on the details of the situation and his involvement, along with exactly how it's being handled or are you just talking out your A$$?

[UNIAlum95]

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I disagree. I think the teams of the Farley era are much better than the old teams from the 90's. I think that is why we never sniffed a national title back with those old teams. We are much more of a national contender now.

Just to be clear we were semi-finalist three times before Farley was coach. In '87 we lost in OT on the road to the National Champion. In '92 we lost to National Champion Youngstown St. In '96 we lost to National Champion Marshall who we also lost to the year before in the quarterfinals. Note that Marshall was in the process of moving up to 1A football during this time.

I'm not going to argue about what team was the most talented but you might need a little perspective about how good some of those early teams were.

[06panther10]

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I realize that those were good teams. I just think that we are much more of a threat now.

[panthertrack]

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So in other words Ferentz is also selling his soul for not suspending Adrian Clayborn?

No, Ferentz sold that long, long ago. Maybe selling a pack of sugar free Wrigley.

[SteinPizza]

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Just to be clear we were semi-finalist three times before Farley was coach. In '87 we lost in OT on the road to the National Champion. In '92 we lost to National Champion Youngstown St. In '96 we lost to National Champion Marshall who we also lost to the year before in the quarterfinals. Note that Marshall was in the process of moving up to 1A football during this time.

I'm not going to argue about what team was the most talented but you might need a little perspective about how good some of those early teams were.

Good point, and you missed the '84 (?) loss to Georgia Southern in the semis as well. They had Tracy Hamm and won the title.

That said, Farley's teams are probably more talented in the O and D lines than the teams from the TO and Mudra eras. I don't remember too many NFL prospects being generated by those teams, but we're putting better talent on the field now. Nothing against those older groups, just that the overall talent level in the trenches seems to have risen.

[williebat]

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Of course it'd be neat to see UNI pull an upset.

I just don't see it happening realistically.

realistically you are right. But for the next 2 and a half weeks I am going to think unrealistically!!!

[Mudrafan]

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this issue is that the difference between FCS & FBS is much closer than it used to be. Whether this is the best FCS team UNI has had (no way it is) is completely irrelevant.

[9YRPLAN]

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williams got deferred judgement for a possession charge but was kicked off the team. the felony was dropped, so i think farley has a right to let steichen's deal play out in court before rendering punishment.

[Big_Al]

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this issue is that the difference between FCS & FBS is much closer than it used to be. Whether this is the best FCS team UNI has had (no way it is) is completely irrelevant.

No way it is? I dunno. Seems like it's a little early to make that sort of statement. Howsabout we wait another 16 games and see where it shakes out?

Of the individual players, I'm sure there have been better ones at almost every position. But overall team quality...

[TheMacHouse]

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No way it is? I dunno. Seems like it's a little early to make that sort of statement. Howsabout we wait another 16 games and see where it shakes out?

Of the individual players, I'm sure there have been better ones at almost every position. But overall team quality...

16 games? Is there going to be an extra game this year where the FCS champ , hopefully UNI, plays the FBS champ.

I think this team can do some great things this year. The players that have been around for awhile will be playing with a chip on their shoulders and the overall talent coming in the last few years has been better.

[Mudrafan]

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UNI's defense will be nowhere near as strong as it has been many years. Also, our QB play as well as tailback is nowhere near IMO.