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    I have some thoughts I need to air here and I think people need something to take their minds off basketball for 5 minutes or so, and since Ban has left the board this will do.


    Question: Should TD and Mark Farley get together and talk about scheduling a second money game every year. By my calculations the program runs approximately 400K in the hole every year. I think if we add a second money game we have a good chance of operating in the black. Therefore we would take the emphasis from these proposed budget cuts away from scholarship football and place it towards Title IX.

    Jeg's plan:

    Until Iowa and ISU start paying us what they pay other I-AA schools to come in and play we need to tell them where to stick it. As of right now (end of March) UNI should have 3 open dates for the upcoming football season. We should be looking for teams in the BCS that want a one time home game deal against a lesser opponent and hold them hostage for 600-700K. Why should we care that Montana needed extra money to fly to Iowa City a few years back. The point is the University of Iowa was willing to pay 750K for a home game with a IAA school, why shouldn't we make them pay it to us? Perhaps Oregon State has an open date they need to fill and they would gladly give us 600K. After all, if they don't fill it, they will miss out on 2 million from a home game. One open date filled. Lets shop one of the other two, guess what? Clemson needs to fill a common open date, we accept 650K. We use the remaining open date for a bye, beat Drake at home, hopefully play well and maybe pull out a win against a BCS, then win the conference for the Playoff berth. If we don't, we stay at home. Which is pretty status quo anyway.

    We are leaving a lot of money on the table in a time that money shouldn't be left on the table. Thoughts?
    Last edited by jegbomb52; 03-25-2010, 12:31 PM.
    Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

    "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

    You stay classy Redbirds.

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    Re: "money game"

    I still argue that if all money football generates is counted, theprogram does not lose money.

    That being said I say go for it! but the extra money better be used for football since they are the ones sacrificing... Isn't there a part of Farley's contract that says if a 2nd FBS game is scheduled he gets 10%?
    "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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    • #3
      Re: "money game"

      No idea

      kaboom
      Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

      "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

      You stay classy Redbirds.

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      • #4
        Re: "money game"

        I like the 2nd money game idea. Given the state of the Athletic Department we might have to make some decisions that hurt a little for one team for one year. But if it can help us run in the black and ultimately puts the entire A.D. in a better position, I think it's the right call.

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        • #5
          Re: "money game"

          Even if Farley gets 10% of a 600k game, the AD pockets 540k.

          I think we HAVE to go to two BCS games a year. It just is what it is.

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          • #6
            Re: "money game"

            The 2nd FBS game shouldn't put as much preasure as before considering the Playoff field will be expanded.

            I say go for it.

            I think we did the right thing building the McLeod.....now we need a $20MM Endowment drive.

            As someone said before.....IF NDSU and Ill St are not accepting State Funds....UNI will get through this.
            "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

            dti

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            • #7
              Re: "money game"

              My thought is this is just a rehash of what several people already said in an earlier thread about the bor threat, but glad you agree. Since we already scheduled games for 10 years against Iowa and ISU I wonder if there is a penalty to get out of them.

              Back to basketball.
              GO PANTHERS!

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              • #8
                Re: "money game"

                Not sure if Farley gets 10% of a second game, but if I understand what I was told about it he can veto a second FBS game unless there is a threat of cutbacks to the football team. With an expansion to 20 teams for the FCS playoffs and the financial difficulties at UNI, I think you can plan on a second game against a FBS opponent in the years to come. There will be many factors that will affect the profitbality of such games. If we have to go to Los Angeles to play USC that will cost too much in costs, school missed etc. If an open date is in the middle of the conference season that doesn't make much sense either.

                If it adds up to two good pay days without much pain and suffering, I think we can plan on playing two midwest FBS teams each year. We're locked into Iowa and ISU for the near future so who's the other team? Nebraska? Kansas? Kansas State? Minnesota? Missouri? Iowa and ISU in the same year?

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                • #9
                  Re: "money game"

                  If you can get 750K from Oregon and travel costs are 100K that is still better than taking 400K from Iowa. Significantly better. Gonzo, if you want to go back to basketball, go. This is nothing like the BOR thread, this is a thread about people concerned over the football program. I have a "plan" granted, it is a message board "plan" but a plan none the less. Forget about time out of school, a game at USC is no different than a game at Southern Utah. What is it it, an hour farther flight? It is still an out Friday, back early on Sunday morning. Hell, we used to schedule home and homes with Cal Poly. The problem isn't playing Iowa and Iowa State, the problem is that we are not receiving a "fair" market value for their dates.
                  Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                  "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                  You stay classy Redbirds.

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                  • #10
                    Re: "money game"

                    I agree with the 2 FBS games suggestion. It makes tons of sense. It also might open some recruiting windows in new territories since you would be playing teams you never played before. Plus, with the newfound celebrity that UNI has, we might be an attractive ticket for schools that have a hard time selling out these FBS/FCS games.

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                    • #11
                      Re: "money game"

                      This needs to happen.

                      With the expanded field giving us a bit of a cushion, I think we should look big... recruits and fans would get a pretty big kick out of knowing we're going to play Iowa/ISU AND another name... Nebraska and Minnesota come to mind for proximity... but then the sky is the limit anywhere else. Preferably you stick to SEC and B10 schools that are pretty much guaranteed to be on tv too. I know we almost had deals with LSU and Miss St in the past... that would be cool.

                      I agree with avoiding scheduling late in the season... look what it did to Cal Poly two years ago. They played Wisconsin really tough (and should have won, actually) and then the next week were banged up for the playoffs and lost. Those big name games do take a toll on a team physically.

                      Do it for the good of the school.

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                      • #12
                        Re: "money game"

                        Do it.


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                        UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                        • #13
                          Re: "money game"

                          Maybe not for this season since it's kind of screwy how the schedule goes anyways, but it would be nice if we could get the Valley to go along and give us Indiana State as the conference opener. The we go could FBS-buy game-FBS the first 3 weeks and be ready for the tough conference games by week 5.

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                          • #14
                            Re: "money game"

                            If this is what it takes, I say go for it. It would be nice if they didn't have to do it every year though.
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                            • #15
                              Re: "money game"

                              Good thoughts Jeg. Since they're hinting at scholorship football being in jeopardy, this is one good idea to save it. To others' points though - I don't want to see one dime of this go to wrestling, women's tennis, or some other non revenue sport. All to football.

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