Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Besides forcing 5 overall tunovers, returning two INTs for TDs, and keeping UNI from scoring a single point.

But yeah, otherwise you nailed it.

Do you remember Davis's int?

He spun in a 360 and threw it as he was spinning, while looking at the ISU student section....yeah we were going the other way at that point as well.

[Al_4_State]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Do you remember Davis's int?

He spun in a 360 and threw it as he was spinning, while looking at the ISU student section....yeah we were going the other way at that point as well.

I remember ISU coming up with 5 turnovers and keeping UNI from scoring a single point.

Maybe you missed that part?

I could sit back and say that ISU gave UNI the '07 game with all of Meyer's picks, or made '06 a game with all the fumbled punt returns and act like UNI did nothing to effectuate the outcome, but I think most of us would know how stupid that is.

[UNIMIS2001]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Why are we arguing with Iowa State fans, it makes me nauseous.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

The fact is that you have once again completely ignored how TO prone UNI was at the beginning of last season was.

In the first 5 games of the season they had at least 3 TO's in 4 of those game (for a total of 15 in those 4 respective games; NDSU, SFA, ISU and SIU). In the other 7 regular season games they never had more than 1.

Don't expect to see UNI handing opponents the ball this season, especially at such inopportune times, they managed to remedy that problem and will hopefully continue to do so this season.

If you want to continue to believe that TO performance by UNI, in Ames last year, was a complete result of CPR and his infalliable defensive squad and not the inexperience of UNI's offensive players, then by all means continue to eat gumdrops and liquorice whips in your fantasyland. Otherwise put on your big boy pants, take off the "cardinal" colored glasses and come back to the rest of us in reality.

Dave, please tell me you associate with this clown...you've always seemed like a sensible person...I truly thought Al-4-State was once upon a time.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

UNI will have the most explosive offense, in terms of big play potential, that you will face this year. UNI's players will be some of the fastest you will face all year.

oh come on dude

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

teams are usually turnover prone because the opposing defense is consistently better than the offense. until i see some major improvement from rennie there is little reason for me to think that ISU will have to bring their "A game" to beat us.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

teams are usually turnover prone because the opposing defense is consistently better than the offense. until i see some major improvement from rennie there is little reason for me to think that ISU will have to bring their "A game" to beat us.

I believe it usually has to do with decision making and experience but I guess when you say things just to hear yourself talk that makes sense.

[Panther789]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

UNI will have the most explosive offense, in terms of big play potential, that you will face this year. UNI's players will be some of the fastest you will face all year.


The question is if UNI can explode, rather than implode like we did many times last season.

Seriously. Just stop.

You are making us wish Clenz was still around, and that is saying something.

[casbern]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I believe it usually has to do with decision making and experience but I guess when you say things just to hear yourself talk that makes sense.

This. Like I said, the stats showed that we had no problem moving the ball, ISU didn't do a commanding job on defense, it was just poor decisions and lack of experience.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I believe it usually has to do with decision making and experience but I guess when you say things just to hear yourself talk that makes sense.

tell me, is it easier to make decisions against a good or bad team? rennie looked much better against teams in our own league, so how do you explain that? have you ever taken a snap at QB?

[FOTY]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a noise?
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Did UNI lose the game or did ISU win the game?

It's a matter of perspective.

Does it really matter?

Yes, statistically, UNI should have been competitive against ISU last fall. The score says otherwise. We lost, and lost by 27. Life goes on.

Will the same happen this fall, I doubt it. UNI is a different team than last fall. ISU is a different team from last fall. Yes, some of the same players return, but they return with another year under the belt. This is a different game.

[Al_4_State]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

The fact is that you have once again completely ignored how TO prone UNI was at the beginning of last season was.

In the first 5 games of the season they had at least 3 TO's in 4 of those game (for a total of 15 in those 4 respective games; NDSU, SFA, ISU and SIU). In the other 7 regular season games they never had more than 1.

Don't expect to see UNI handing opponents the ball this season, especially at such inopportune times, they managed to remedy that problem and will hopefully continue to do so this season.

If you want to continue to believe that TO performance by UNI, in Ames last year, was a complete result of CPR and his infalliable defensive squad and not the inexperience of UNI's offensive players, then by all means continue to eat gumdrops and liquorice whips in your fantasyland. Otherwise put on your big boy pants, take off the "cardinal" colored glasses and come back to the rest of us in reality.

Dave, please tell me you associate with this clown...you've always seemed like a sensible person...I truly thought Al-4-State was once upon a time.

You want me to say that UNI was simply generous enough to screw up enough times that ISU won. You don't want to give credence to the idea that ISU wasn't terrible.

I've never said ISU's defense was infallible, or that Rhoads was some kind of god. But the indisputable fact is that ISU forced 5 turnovers against UNI, returned 2 for scores, and kept UNI from scoring a point.

Then, rather than acknowledging that "hey! ISU played a pretty good overall defensive game" you try to act like the only reason ISU won is because UNI just gave the game away and ISU did nothing to earn it.

It's like I'm arguing with Iowa fans with a couple of you guys.

[Al_4_State]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I can acknowledge that UNI was turnover prone, if you can acknowledge that ISU had a propensity to force them.

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I can acknowledge that UNI was turnover prone, if you can acknowledge that ISU had a propensity to force them.

When you look at the other games during the first 5 weeks of our season, they didn't.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

tell me, is it easier to make decisions against a good or bad team? rennie looked much better against teams in our own league, so how do you explain that? have you ever taken a snap at QB?

Have you ever tried not being a total tool who talks in definitives that have little to do with the argument you're in? No? Didn't think so. Most Hawkeye fans can't.