Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

[FOTY]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I've read somewhere that Rhoads plans to name his starter on August 20th. Given typical college coach speak, he should have his decision around the 20th but not make a formal announcement until game day.

Having watched us experiment last year, I really hope that ISU does the same on August 3rd then sticks with a QB the rest of the year. I'd like UNI to beat them, but I'd also like for them to have a decent season (afterward).

My prediction is that the game will be very similar to 06 when it came down to the final play. IMO, these teams will match up pretty well.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Keep telling yourself ISU only needs to bring their B- game to hold UNI in check. If thats the effort they bring this UNI offense will have a better yardage output than yhey did last season. Dont count on two pick sixs and a fumble from carlos inside the 1 yardline again the year. Last year was 8 new starters on offense and a qb situation that sounds similar to yours this year (heres a hint - it doesnt work)This year we bring back 9 starters, and a clear #1

I'm sure ISU will play their hardest, but it won't be their best game of the season (obviously). They won't overlook UNI, as they shouldn't. But, to say ISU needs to bring their best A-game to keep UNI in check, is a little overboard. UNI is a good team, but they aren't a Mizzou or Okie State...

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I'm sure ISU will play their hardest, but it won't be their best game of the season (obviously). They won't overlook UNI, as they shouldn't. But, to say ISU needs to bring their best A-game to keep UNI in check, is a little overboard. UNI is a good team, but they aren't a Mizzou or Okie State...

Neither is ISU.

UNI is closer to ISU than ISU is to Okie State.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Neither is ISU.

UNI is closer to ISU than ISU is to Okie State.

Exactly. I said that because last year UNI managed to move the ball fairly well on a team that Cyclone fans hailed for its defense and still do. That was with an extremely inexperienced squad for the Panthers, at a time when it still had questions mark it was working out. Now UNI brings a lot of talent and experience into this game and are ready to prove that lasts years score was a fluke (not necessarily the outcome, but ISU was not 27 pts better last year).

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Neither is ISU.

UNI is closer to ISU than ISU is to Okie State.

I never said they were. But, it sounds like you're making UNI out to be one of the better teams ISU will play this year with a very potent offense.

Exactly. I said that because last year UNI managed to move the ball fairly well on a team that Cyclone fans hailed for its defense and still do. That was with an extremely inexperienced squad for the Panthers, at a time when it still had questions mark it was working out. Now UNI brings a lot of talent and experience into this game and are ready to prove that lasts years score was a fluke (not necessarily the outcome, but ISU was not 27 pts better last year).

So does ISU. This will be one of the better teams and deepest teams ISU has had for the last few years.

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I never said they were. But, it sounds like you're making UNI out to be one of the better teams ISU will play this year with a very potent offense.



So does ISU. This will be one of the better teams and deepest teams ISU has had for the last few years.

UNI will have the most explosive offense, in terms of big play potential, that you will face this year. UNI's players will be some of the fastest you will face all year.


The question is if UNI can explode, rather than implode like we did many times last season.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

UNI will have the most explosive offense, in terms of big play potential, that you will face this year. UNI's players will be some of the fastest you will face all year.


The question is if UNI can explode, rather than implode like we did many times last season.

More explosive offense, big play potential, and faster players than Oklahoma, Texas, Okie State, Mizzou, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Iowa?
If that's the case, ISU's toughest game sounds like it might be the season opener!! Thank God it'll all be downhill after we play UNI.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I never said they were. But, it sounds like you're making UNI out to be one of the better teams ISU will play this year with a very potent offense.



So does ISU. This will be one of the better teams and deepest teams ISU has had for the last few years.

--We obviously don't think we'll be one of your better opponents but if ISU thinks they can play below their best and still come away with a W, like how they did last year, then they're gonna be stratching their heads at the end of this one.

--Really? Because your offense has a lot of question marks and inexperience from what I've heard. You've lost your top QB and top 2 rushers. Sure Tiller at least has some experience but with our talent and depth at DB, whoever is at QB is going to have to do their best Peyton Manning impression and not make mistakes. I honestly don't care how talented the Clones are supposed to be or if this whole ISU squad is supposed go pro, the Panthers still know that they are just as good as them and will compete with them for 4 quarters strong.

We may FCS and you're FBS but all that means is that you have more resources and advantages than us and should lay a pounding on us every single year, you dont, so something tells me that the gap between ISU and UNI isn't what so many Cyclone fans believe it to be and we're very capable of popping you in the mouth at any given time.

[Panther/Statesman]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Here's the way I see it. UNI, being a vastly more experienced team than the one that self-destructed last year (and yes, ISU took advantage of those errors) puts a couple of quick scores up on the Clones.

The game will rest on whether the ISU offense can respond, or whether their confidence will fade before the half. If they match the score or pull ahead, then its a dogfight in the second half. If not, UNI methodically pulls away to a respectable win, with Farley calling off the dogs early.

UNI doesn't have to be OSU or Mizzou, because the Clones are likely in for a very tough year. Rhodes has them going in the right direction, but most of the pre-season press is talking about a 3 win season, with one of those being UNI, mainly due to the Panthers being in the subdivision rather than on returning talent.

I think that with the experience, speed, and quickness advantages UNI has, going across the majority of the first and second teams, the Clone faithful are in for a shock, especially if they really think they'll hang 4 or 5 touchdowns on the D.

Meh, but I've been wrong before, and the most talented team doesn't always win for myriad reasons.

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

More explosive offense, big play potential, and faster players than Oklahoma, Texas, Okie State, Mizzou, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Iowa?
If that's the case, ISU's toughest game sounds like it might be the season opener!! Thank God it'll all be downhill after we play UNI.

Yes, the fastest.

UNI has three players on the field that qualified for the NCAA National track meet, and there are a couple other players on the team that are just as fast, if not faster than those three but chose not to run track.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

--We obviously don't think we'll be one of your better opponents but if ISU thinks they can play below their best and still come away with a W, like how they did last year, then they're gonna be stratching their heads at the end of this one.

--Really? Because your offense has a lot of question marks and inexperience from what I've heard. You've lost your top QB and top 2 rushers. Sure Tiller at least has some experience but with our talent and depth at DB, whoever is at QB is going to have to do their best Peyton Manning impression and not make mistakes. I honestly don't care how talented the Clones are supposed to be or if this whole ISU squad is supposed go pro, the Panthers still know that they are just as good as them and will compete with them for 4 quarters strong.

We may FCS and you're FBS but all that means is that you have more resources and advantages than us and should lay a pounding on us every single year, you dont, so something tells me that the gap between ISU and UNI isn't what so many Cyclone fans believe it to be and we're very capable of popping you in the mouth at any given time.

UNI83 doesn't agree. He seems to think that UNI's offense will be the most explosive and fastest offense we'll see this year.

Our only question mark is at QB. Yes, it's a big position and important, but it's a question mark because we brought in a JUCO to battle for a starting spot. If we didn't have the depth we do at QB and we only had Tiller, would that make it better, knowing who our starting QB is right now? Tiller was the QB who played 99% of the game last year against UNI.
RB is not a concern for me. Shontrelle Johnson got a lot of carries last season, and we have a lot of depth at RB as well.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Yes, the fastest.

UNI has three players on the field that qualified for the NCAA National track meet, and there are a couple other players on the team that are just as fast, if not faster than those three but chose not to run track.

Stop traffic.

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

More explosive offense, big play potential, and faster players than Oklahoma, Texas, Okie State, Mizzou, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Iowa?
If that's the case, ISU's toughest game sounds like it might be the season opener!! Thank God it'll all be downhill after we play UNI.

I think he's referring to how Jarrod Herring and Carlos are some very successful collegiate sprinters...I don't think that warrents saying they'll be the fastest or most explosive...but those two will certainly be the fastest players on the field. Maybe he simply forgot ISU was in the Big XII since its just a matter of time until that time bomb goes off and ISU has to find a backup plan

[panther-state]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

UNI83 doesn't agree. He seems to think that UNI's offense will be the most explosive and fastest offense we'll see this year.

Our only question mark is at QB. Yes, it's a big position and important, but it's a question mark because we brought in a JUCO to battle for a starting spot. If we didn't have the depth we do at QB and we only had Tiller, would that make it better, knowing who our starting QB is right now? Tiller was the QB who played 99% of the game last year against UNI.RB is not a concern for me. Shontrelle Johnson got a lot of carries last season, and we have a lot of depth at RB as well.

And his most remarkable play was a punt...he was a non-factor in ISU's success last year other than not giving the ball away. Only 80-90 yds on 22 pass attempts and he will now face the same defense only with much more experience. I don't like his prospects unless his game has grown leaps and bounds. Also your rushing game was a non-factor last year, with one of the most talented rushers in the Big XII over the past few years mustering up only 74 yds. Is Shontrelle Johnson that much better than Robinson? You'd better hope so or else Ben Boothby will be picking pieces of SJ's jersey out of his teeth

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Team Totals UNI ISU
FIRST DOWNS 17 15
Rushing 7 9
Passing 9 4
Penalty 1 2
NET YARDS RUSHING 146 117
Rushing Attempts 43 35
Average Per Rush 3.4 3.3
Rushing Touchdowns 0 1
Yards Gained Rushing 166 149
Yards Lost Rushing 20 32
NET YARDS PASSING 174 93
Completions-Attempts-Int 12-23-3 12-24-0
Average Per Attempt 7.6 3.9
Average Per Completion 14.5 7.8
Passing Touchdowns 0 0
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS 320 210
Total offense plays 66 59
Average Gain Per Play 4.8 3.6
Fumbles: Number-Lost 3-2 0-0
Penalties: Number-Yards 7-60 8-60
PUNTS-YARDS 3-160 5-168
Average Yards Per Punt 53.3 33.6
Net Yards Per Punt 39.0 29.6
Inside 20 0 2
50+ Yards 3 0
Touchbacks 1 1
Fair catch 0 1
KICKOFFS-YARDS 1-56 6-407
Average Yards Per Kickoff 56.0 67.8
Net Yards Per Kickoff 42.0 45.5
Touchbacks 0 1
Punt returns: Number-Yards-TD 0-0-0 2-23-0
Average Per Return 0.0 11.5
Kickoff returns: Number-Yds-TD 5-114-0 1-14-0
Average Per Return 22.8 14.0
Interceptions: Number-Yds-TD 0-0-0 3-126-2
Fumble Returns: Number-Yds-TD 0-0-0 1-0-0
Miscellaneous Yards 0 0
Possession Time 33:16 26:44
1st Quarter 7:31 7:29
2nd Quarter 7:07 7:53
3rd Quarter 7:09 7:51
4th Quarter 11:29 3:31
Third-Down Conversions 5 of 14 6 of 15
Fourth-Down Conversions 0 of 2 1 of 1
Red-Zone Scores-Chances 0-4 3-3
Touchdowns 0-4 1-3
Field goals 0-4 2-3
Sacks By: Number-Yards 4-23 3-10
PAT Kicks 0-0 3-3
Field Goals 0-1 2-2