UNI vs. ISU

[Panther-Sheik]

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Learn to read. I said prevent offense.

So, now that you pointed out what you wrote, I have to ask, WTF are you even talking about? I think you were better off letting me believe you meant to say defense.

[Panther'73]

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Video board music - really loud and annoying; Case tractor Red Zone? Seriously? Not impressed.

[cydave]

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Could we please have open parking lots that are not located in grass that becomes a mud field? The last 2 yrs. we have had to walk 2 miles to find a place to park. Oh well, if ISU doesn't want our money for parking....

The ONLY public parking lot that isn't grass is the Vet Med parking lot. Otherwise, you could tailgate at Kmart...

[cydave]

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Video board music - really loud and annoying; Case tractor Red Zone? Seriously? Not impressed.

I didn't like that either. Oh well, anything for a few bucks..

[JayJ79]

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Video board music - really loud and annoying; Case tractor Red Zone? Seriously? Not impressed.

I think people back in CF may have been able to hear "Sweet Caroline" that they played postgame. I was already out of the stadium by that point (yes, I admit that I didn't stay till the final horn. Left the hillside once the Broken Ladder play was broken.)

kind of annoyed me when they had the music blaring over the PA (or the band playing) a few seconds after UNI had broken the huddle (with the play clock dipping under 10). But I have that issue with the UNI band at times too.

[Newsbreaker]

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Aren't top level FCS programs supposed to have talent that can match a lower level BCS program, and at least match the second string talent?

And not sure if you're actually serious about the second bolded part. Are you saying we haven't grown as a program since last year? Or, haven't grown as a program since Chizik was here? Or, haven't grown as a program since Mac was here?

I can't speak for him, but I would say "since the beginning of time."

The fact that ISU continues to be no better than UNI, with the differences in resources, is astounding.

I can't believe ISU fans keep paying fifty bucks (or more) per head to watch a team equal to ours pretend to be a major conference program. It's astounding.

Well, at least that exercise in mass imagination will soon be ended in definitive fashion.

[djb]

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A couple of thoughts:

Rennie was vastly improved from last year.
UNI's kicking and punting are HORRIBLE.
UNI's DL and OL dominated ours. (would have been nice to have our starters in there and KO not getting hurt)
ISU's WR's need to work on catching, BIG TIME. (I think we really missed Darks, as he is our go-to guy)
Jantz looked bad at times and great at others. Of course, its hard to look good when you are constantly scrambling. I really liked his ability to lead the team on scoring drives when needed, especially at the end of the game.
Lots of penalties, both ways. (pretty typical for the first game of the year)
I expect UNI to win quite a few games this year.
I expect ISU to win 4-5 more games this year.
Tailgating in the rain sucks.
Nice crowd, 4th largest at JT.
New videoboard was awesome.

Jantz was a horrible passer and decision maker yesterday - except for that all important pass out of bounds. He was a terrific scrambler. Expect big 12 teams to put a spy on him - like texas did to Martinez (Huskers) last year.

First time to ISU - great tailgate environment, nice stadium and scoreboard. The music was annoying but that's home field advantage. I think it helped pump our guys up in the second half. Didn't hear your crowd much until the last couple of minutes.

[UNI_12]

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I can't speak for him, but I would say "since the beginning of time."

The fact that ISU continues to be no better than UNI, with the differences in resources, is astounding.

I can't believe ISU fans keep paying fifty bucks (or more) per head to watch a team equal to ours pretend to be a major conference program. It's astounding.

Well, at least that exercise in mass imagination will soon be ended in definitive fashion.

Why do we continue to talk trash about a team we lost to? They won, we lost. Move on to what is hopefully still an outstanding season.

They gave us four turnovers, and played without their 2best olineman, their two best dlineman, and their best receiver for the majority of the game....and they STILL beat us. Why are we still talking crap to them? Do you know how bad that makes us look? Just a reminder, we lost despite all of those variables working in our favor.

[cydave]

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I can't speak for him, but I would say "since the beginning of time."

The fact that ISU continues to be no better than UNI, with the differences in resources, is astounding.

I can't believe ISU fans keep paying fifty bucks (or more) per head to watch a team equal to ours pretend to be a major conference program. It's astounding.

Well, at least that exercise in mass imagination will soon be ended in definitive fashion.

The series is 20-4-3, in favor of ISU. I guess I'm a little confused on when you say "no better" than UNI. But, that record is a tad lopsided.
You just seem rather bitter about the loss, but I shouldn't be surprised as you're always that way.

[06panther10]

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The series is 20-4-3, in favor of ISU. I guess I'm a little confused on when you say "no better" than UNI. But, that record is a tad lopsided.
You just seem rather bitter about the loss, but I shouldn't be surprised as you're always that way.

Dave, how many of those games were played in Cedar Falls? Many of those close road losses turn into 7-10 point wins if UNI is playing at home.


The point (and I believe the point that NB was making) is that UNI continually produces talent that equals, and in some cases surpasses, that of Iowa State despite the enormous budget difference, the enormous scholarship difference, and the enormous resource difference. And this has been proven on the field in the last 5-10 years as UNI has absolutely gone toe to toe with Iowa State in almost every instance.

[panther-state]

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The series is 20-4-3, in favor of ISU. I guess I'm a little confused on when you say "no better" than UNI. But, that record is a tad lopsided.
You just seem rather bitter about the loss, but I shouldn't be surprised as you're always that way.

Not that I completely agree with everything said NB's post, I need a lot of convincing that Iowa State is a much better program than UNI. He simply stated that basically UNI-ISU are equals on the football field and I would agree for the most part.

The biggest differences are venues and the fact that ISU is associated with the Big XII and UNI is an MVC school. If you didn't know that previously you'd think both schools were C-USA/MAC schools by watching last nights game

[cydave]

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I think NB was trying to put down ISU more than actually compare UNI and ISU's football programs. There are a handful of members on this board that seem to hate ISU so much, that they try to belittle ISU at every given moment.

UNI does very well in the FCS and does very well given the amount of resources they have. But, at the same time, I think ISU does "alright" given the amount of resources they have compared to the rest of the Big 12. Take the amount of money and resources at Texas/OU/OSU and compare it to the amount of money at ISU, that gap is a lot larger than the gap between ISU and UNI.

[Mudrafan]

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I think NB was trying to put down ISU more than actually compare UNI and ISU's football programs. There are a handful of members on this board that seem to hate ISU so much, that they try to belittle ISU at every given moment.

You do realize the name of the board is...Panther Nation...right & not Clown fanatic?

[Mudrafan]

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The series is 20-4-3, in favor of ISU. I guess I'm a little confused on when you say "no better" than UNI. But, that record is a tad lopsided.
You just seem rather bitter about the loss, but I shouldn't be surprised as you're always that way.

Most of those games were played without helmets so you need to look at the modern era. In this era, the total scores, yardage, etc is pretty even steven going back to the modern era of the mid-90s forward. The series has been extremely competitive since then. In fact, much more so than the Iowa/clown series where it has been far one sided for a heavy majority.

[Khan4Cats]

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Why do we continue to talk trash about a team we lost to? They won, we lost. Move on to what is hopefully still an outstanding season.

They gave us four turnovers, and played without their 2best olineman, their two best dlineman, and their best receiver for the majority of the game....and they STILL beat us. Why are we still talking crap to them? Do you know how bad that makes us look? Just a reminder, we lost despite all of those variables working in our favor.

You must remember that his first concern is located to the south end of I-380 and that clouds any judgement towards Iowa State. HIS team won yesterday in Iowa City whilst his fallback wasn't able to close the deal in Ames.

The series is 20-4-3, in favor of ISU. I guess I'm a little confused on when you say "no better" than UNI. But, that record is a tad lopsided.
You just seem rather bitter about the loss, but I shouldn't be surprised as you're always that way.

As others have pointed out, the recent series has been very close, despite being only played in one location and with one set of referees, home locker facilties, noise control coming out of huddles, etc. etc. etc. I'd love if the series continued once you're relegated to MAC-level resources, but my guess is you'll be out selling yourselves to the highest bidder and won't be able to pay to bring anyone in.