Mark Farey = Ron Zook

[12thFloorBender]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Ron Zook is a terrible comparison, Farley actually wins games.

If you want to make any comparison, it's Frank Solich. And look what happened to Nebraska after they decided that wasn't good enough.

Farley has earned the right to decide when his time here is done, within reason of course.

He's not really doing that as of late.

Farley is a crappy coach and it's showing more now than ever.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

He recruited skill position offensive players that made it to the NFL. With the team down the road in Iowa City sucking for the past several years ears the players we signed back then are now going to iowa to play in the Big10. I believe Terry was better at developing players at the skill positions.

I have to disagree with this. Some of our best players or kids I'm excited about are guys isu and Iowa recruited but passed on. DJ, Rohr, lemaster, Shaw, kilfoy, Farley, gaeta off the top of my head. Iowa only has a couple kids that would have gone to uni (Miller, jewell) but not sure about isu.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Back to the title of the thread. The analogy is flawed, but I can't think of a better one. Someone mentioned Frank Solich. Not sure I see that either, but maybe it's better than Zook. The only real similarities are that Zook has a defensive background, although Zook's resume is far more impressive (largely due to age, SEC experience, and having coached in the NFL).

Zook's rep was that he was a master recruiter, but couldn't put it together on the field. That was largely born out by Illinois having mediocre to bad teams, with several guys getting drafted each year. Farley does a decent job of coaching up some players, but it's not like UNI is playing in a talent rich area to begin with, nor are we widely recognized for blowing away our peers in recruiting. If Farley was at Georgia Southern, Sam Houston State, etc., then the Zook analogy might be more applicable. Farley has also consistently won, and Zook's coaching record was spotty. Urban Meyer won a NC at Florida largely with players recruited by Zook, which just adds weight to the recruiter vs. game day argument.

[1988]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Did you mean relevancy? Too, too funny

I didn't profess to being the smart guy. I'm one of the idiots. Duh.

[catsize]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Hey smart guy did you mean relevancey? Too funny.

Did you mean relevancy? Too, too funny

[1988]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

IQ--is the common denominator for the posters after a game that we lose that calls for the coaches' heads or the rest of the season is a total loss. I'm sure they are not college grads or have ever coached. The IQ of these posters is below normal for football or basketball revelancy. They may be smart people in their own dimension, but village idiot in football intelligence.

Hey smart guy did you mean relevancey? Too funny.

[northwest iowa panther]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Wow, the douchebag component on this board seems to rise exponentially every time the Panthers lose a game. What is it with some people?

IQ--is the common denominator for the posters after a game that we lose that calls for the coaches' heads or the rest of the season is a total loss. I'm sure they are not college grads or have ever coached. The IQ of these posters is below normal for football or basketball revelancy. They may be smart people in their own dimension, but village idiot in football intelligence.

[panther1]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

It was all about the cast he had at UNI. The tem of coaches they had and the players they recruited. Kansas was a hard place to recruit and he didn't take the coaches to MSU with him.

This response is correct...

[Winder/aka Dan Holmes]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

Twin Cities Panther..............Really? The little timer dude? That's all you got?

If I recall, when I posted previously, I gave my opinion as to the loss at NDSU.

Then I did sincerely asked if you would consider meet/greet Saturday and you didn't show; so I assumed you didn't make it or chose not meet, which I respect.

Those that know me are surely getting a chuckle from your characterization of me. I don't intend to criticize you, since obviously sites like these are created for fans voicing their opinion.

I'll continue to read, but my postings are less, since my posts are opinions, not criticisms.

My only thoughts are a reincarnation of "Master Larsen". Sorry Twin Cities Panther, there's just these similarities.

[Trapped in California]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

No one wins at KU over any period of time. Its a black hole for FB.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

No, he fired them to save his own a**. Plus he was an asst. @ IA.St before going to MS.

Right, I was just addressing why he hasn't won at those places.

[1988]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

It was all about the cast he had at UNI. The tem of coaches they had and the players they recruited. Kansas was a hard place to recruit and he didn't take the coaches to MSU with him.

He recruited skill position offensive players that made it to the NFL. With the team down the road in Iowa City sucking for the past several years the players we signed back then are now going to iowa to play in the Big10. I believe Terry was better at developing players at the skill positions.

[Panther'73]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

It was all about the cast he had at UNI. The tem of coaches they had and the players they recruited. Kansas was a hard place to recruit and he didn't take the coaches to MSU with him.

No, he fired them to save his own a**. Plus he was an asst. @ IA.St before going to MS.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

If that's true, why hasn't TA won other places? Football has changed, the league has gotten 10 times better. UNI doesn't dominate anymore, and it doesn't have anything to do with Coach Farley.

It was all about the cast he had at UNI. The tem of coaches they had and the players they recruited. Kansas was a hard place to recruit and he didn't take the coaches to MSU with him.

[Anne Frank]

Re: Mark Farey = Ron Zook

If Terry would not have gone to Kansas, I suspect we have at least one championship by now...

If that's true, why hasn't TA won other places? Football has changed, the league has gotten 10 times better. UNI doesn't dominate anymore, and it doesn't have anything to do with Coach Farley.