Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

You don't fire Farley, but you force him to make staff changes on the offensive side. We've reached Dunbarian levels of mediocrity. This has to end immediately lest we slip into second tier status permanently.

[ban basketball]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

For the life of me I've never been able to understand how fans can make coaches go from hero to goat, all based on a "bad" season or two.

Do they suddenly lose their abilities to coach in a short time period, or are there numerous other factors involved that explain why a TEAM (hint, hint) isn't performing?

[Blue42]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

For the life of me I've never been able to understand how fans can make coaches go from hero to goat, all based on a "bad" season or two.

Do they suddenly lose their abilities to coach in a short time period, or are there numerous other factors involved that explain why a TEAM (hint, hint) isn't performing?

What the heck does that mean?

I thought coaches at the college D1 level were paid to developing winning teams?

Our offensive scheme has consistently failed to produce in key situations for years. As a result, we're 8-17 in "one-score" games over the last 4 years.

Maybe we should have a team retreat to resolve those issues?

[The Tight End]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

On Monday afternoon Dannen should sit down with Farley and get the cards on the table...NOW. Not after the season is over with and this team with reportedly the best talent in the last five years doesn't even get a sniff at the playoffs...again.
Things are not working out as everyone had hoped. UNI probably loses to Illinois State and North Dakota State and maybe even SIU. That would be seven losses on the season and NO ONE saw that coming.
Looking ahead to basketball, Coach Jacobson needs to get the Panthers back into the NCAA tournament...one way or another. UNI hasn't won a game in St. Louis in four years. UNI will probably have to finish in the top three in the league and win at least two games in St. Louis to even have a shot at an NCAA bid or it will be another second tier tournament with all that talent available this year.
UNI football is apparently fading away again this year. If that happens with basketball the two best sports at UNI will be headed downhill faster than anyone would care to deal with.

[PantherTilDeath]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I'm going to call Farley out on another topic here.

Max Busher had to sit the first half tonight because of the targeting penalty last week.

He was eligible for the 2nd half. He's a senior starter. He did not re-enter the game until less than 4 minutes remained in the 2nd half and we were down by 14 points.

Playing in his place...the younger Farley...a true-freshman.

UNI is playing for the team's season tonight..and a senior starter is on the bench with a true freshman playing in his place. And it's the head coach's son.

I'm not knocking his boy. He played a solid first half. But does any other true freshman play the 3/4 of the 2nd half of a critical game in front of a senior starter? You tell me.

!!! Right on the money here. Obviously not, Jared missed multiple tackles this game resulting in extended drives. It was blatantly obvious he is getting the coaches son treatment. It's unfortunate for the team and Max Busher that this is happening at the COLLEGE LEVEL! His interception was thrown right at him, anyone could've made that play.

[Blue42]

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!!! Right on the money here. Obviously not, Jared missed multiple tackles this game resulting in extended drives. It was blatantly obvious he is getting the coaches son treatment. It's unfortunate for the team and Max Busher that this is happening at the COLLEGE LEVEL! His interception was thrown right at him, anyone could've made that play.

To be fair, I thought he made a really nice play on that pick. He was moving right and stopped on a dime to get up and tip that ball to himself.

But in clutch 2nd half play...with the season basically on the line...you gotta go with your number ones.

To take this one step further...Busher sat behind the elder Farley last season until the NDSU game and season-ending injury. Busher then filled in and played well the rest of the year. Now in his senior year he finds himself in this situation.

Not saying he should'a been the number 1 last year...but to be a player in that situation, and to stand on the sideline for nearly two quarters Sat night...wow I can't imagine the frustration.

[jegbomb52]

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People talked crap about Jake playing at first too, big crap, he is now the best player on the field when we don't have the ball. Jared Farley is a great player too, he played well yesterday, very well. So he missed a tackle, we missed 14 of them yesterday. Not the end of the world.

I think a true freshman playing at that level is one bright spot I took from the game yesterday. We have at least 3 years left with him, plus a red shirt to spare if he would suffer an injury (remember his rap was to be better than brother but injury prone). I think (i am mad as hell we are 3-4 too) we are giving Jared a bum rap because his dad is the coach of that 3-4 team. Losing close games to us has become self efficacy, it has nothing to do with Busher over Farley or vice versa. If Farley is red shirted and Busher plays the whole game we are still 3-4 today. Just my two cents.

[06panther10]

For the life of me I've never been able to understand how fans can make coaches go from hero to goat, all based on a "bad" season or two.

Do they suddenly lose their abilities to coach in a short time period, or are there numerous other factors involved that explain why a TEAM (hint, hint) isn't performing?

Are you suggesting coaches shouldn't be judged based upon their performance? lol, wow.

[Kyle]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

People talked crap about Jake playing at first too, big crap, he is now the best player on the field when we don't have the ball. Jared Farley is a great player too, he played well yesterday, very well. So he missed a tackle, we missed 14 of them yesterday. Not the end of the world.

I think a true freshman playing at that level is one bright spot I took from the game yesterday. We have at least 3 years left with him, plus a red shirt to spare if he would suffer an injury (remember his rap was to be better than brother but injury prone). I think (i am mad as hell we are 3-4 too) we are giving Jared a bum rap because his dad is the coach of that 3-4 team. Losing close games to us has become self efficacy, it has nothing to do with Busher over Farley or vice versa. If Farley is red shirted and Busher plays the whole game we are still 3-4 today. Just my two cents.

I agree 100%.

[Blue42]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

People talked crap about Jake playing at first too, big crap, he is now the best player on the field when we don't have the ball. Jared Farley is a great player too, he played well yesterday, very well. So he missed a tackle, we missed 14 of them yesterday. Not the end of the world.

I think a true freshman playing at that level is one bright spot I took from the game yesterday. We have at least 3 years left with him, plus a red shirt to spare if he would suffer an injury (remember his rap was to be better than brother but injury prone). I think (i am mad as hell we are 3-4 too) we are giving Jared a bum rap because his dad is the coach of that 3-4 team. Losing close games to us has become self efficacy, it has nothing to do with Busher over Farley or vice versa. If Farley is red shirted and Busher plays the whole game we are still 3-4 today. Just my two cents.

Fair enough.

I wouldn't put the game on Jared's shoulders. Not even close.

I really brought this up to raise the question of how decisions are being made behind the scenes. Is Farley doing everything he can in all decisions...including coaching staff and playing time...to put winning first?

Playing Jared in front of a kid who owned that starting position struck me as odd. I'm guessing it wasn't lost on players not wearing #37 on their jersey.

If players suspect a coach's son is getting a shot at playing time that other kids might not get...at the expense of a kid who's invested 4/5 years in the program and earned the spot...I suspect that might have a negative impact on team morale...and subsequently wins.

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

People talked crap about Jake playing at first too, big crap, he is now the best player on the field when we don't have the ball. Jared Farley is a great player too, he played well yesterday, very well. So he missed a tackle, we missed 14 of them yesterday. Not the end of the world.

I think a true freshman playing at that level is one bright spot I took from the game yesterday. We have at least 3 years left with him, plus a red shirt to spare if he would suffer an injury (remember his rap was to be better than brother but injury prone). I think (i am mad as hell we are 3-4 too) we are giving Jared a bum rap because his dad is the coach of that 3-4 team. Losing close games to us has become self efficacy, it has nothing to do with Busher over Farley or vice versa. If Farley is red shirted and Busher plays the whole game we are still 3-4 today. Just my two cents.

Voice of reason...

[Alum 99']

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Yes...Our offensive coaches have forgot how to coach....usually on that side of the ball you get the ball to your playmakers....we do not...we have the best player on the field in DJ and he is getting 8 to 14 carries a game....Unexplainable. ..Our qbs look horrible and have no confidence. ..The throw sawyer made yesterday for a pick six many high school qbs would not make....funny how our defense can't stop over the middle throws to opposing te's for years...but salamon won't throw to ours...Our line blocks no one...nobody....One thing I did notice is that when Carnes threw the pick to end the game...it appeared that farley lit salamon up on the sidelines....don't know if I have seen that before....

[ronfitch]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Fair enough.

I wouldn't put the game on Jared's shoulders. Not even close.

I really brought this up to raise the question of how decisions are being made behind the scenes. Is Farley doing everything he can in all decisions...including coaching staff and playing time...to put winning first?

Playing Jared in front of a kid who owned that starting position struck me as odd. I'm guessing it wasn't lost on players not wearing #37 on their jersey.

If players suspect a coach's son is getting a shot at playing time that other kids might not get...at the expense of a kid who's invested 4/5 years in the program and earned the spot...I suspect that might have a negative impact on team morale...and subsequently wins.

No dog in this fight and I did not see yesterday's game, but no position is "owned" despite how long a player has been in the program.

Coaches should put the players in that puts the team in the best position to win.

And the penalty against Busher last week was wrong. Thought the league would have corrected that this week.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Oh boy. Ban and his "coaches for life or you aren't a real fan" deal again. Penrith part deux. Funny thing is that worked out "OK" I'd say.

[ban basketball]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

When the team was doing well, why weren't people calling for Farley's job then? When we gave Iowa a run for their money this year, why weren't you calling for his job? Did he just somehow start getting really bad as a coach as of late? If so, what changed?

I've played sport long enough to know-football at the collegiate level too-that there's more to a team winning and losing that just one person; e.g., the coach, which is ALWAYS everyone's scapegoat when things aren't going "fans" way.

Once we get back on track, it should be fun to read the posts about how Farley is suddenly a coaching genius again. I'll always be here to remind you all of how ridiculous this always looks.