Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

[dragon]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I think a shakeup is in order with assistants. Made the SDSU game and could not believe with my eyes the poor QB play. I was going to get tickets for another game this year but instead I'll stay in Des Moines.

[Kyle]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Or, is it that that there's more to winning and losing than one person, especially the one who isn't on the field?

You must be new to this thing we call college athletics. Welcome.

[ban basketball]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

You must be new to this thing we call college athletics. Welcome.

Yeah, I only played football in college. So, yes, I'm pretty derned new, boy!

So, ah, you think Farley was the one who threw the reckless pass to end our chances the other night? Nice to see that you alone understand college athletics.

[06panther10]

Yeah, I only played football in college. So, yes, I'm pretty derned new, boy!

So, ah, you think Farley was the one who threw the reckless pass to end our chances the other night? Nice to see that you alone understand college athletics.

Do you honestly believe people are pissed off because of that that ONE pass? The game was lost before that play, the season was off the rails before this game, and the program has been off since before this season.

This is just a continuation of a 3+ year pattern of failure and THAT is why people are, rightly, pissed. Its a sustained period of mediocrity which would lead any reasonable person to conclude that the coaching staff is not doing a good job and have to be held accountable.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Do you honestly believe people are pissed off because of that that ONE pass? The game was lost before that play, the season was off the rails before this game, and the program has been off since before this season.

This is just a continuation of a 3+ year pattern of failure and THAT is why people are, rightly, pissed. Its a sustained period of mediocrity which would lead any reasonable person to conclude that the coaching staff is not doing a good job and have to be held accountable.

Exactly. Some here need to realize that this has been discussed for a looooong time. There has been a downward trend in this program for several years now. When we play a quality team, we find a way to lose or are outcoached. That's a big-picture problem. While we're upset about each individual loss, it's merely a symptom of a much larger issue.

[TH1974]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Do you honestly believe people are pissed off because of that that ONE pass? The game was lost before that play, the season was off the rails before this game, and the program has been off since before this season.

This is just a continuation of a 3+ year pattern of failure and THAT is why people are, rightly, pissed. Its a sustained period of mediocrity which would lead any reasonable person to conclude that the coaching staff is not doing a good job and have to be held accountable.

It's just 'a few years'!

[Luther_Heggs]

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Yeah, I only played football in college. So, yes, I'm pretty derned new, boy!

So, ah, you think Farley was the one who threw the reckless pass to end our chances the other night? Nice to see that you alone understand college athletics.

Remember, you are dealing with fans here. You probably need to lower your expectations.

[DomeIsHome]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Losing in sports from the college level on up is entirely on the head coach once he has his players. This isn't high school where you work with who happens to live in your district. College athletic coaches are CEOs and paid accordingly. If the work product isn't there, they are replaced. Coaches control who they hire, recruit, retain, develop, and ultimately let go. If the assistants aren't getting the job done, and the head coach doesn't address it, it is on him. If the players that are hand picked don't get the job done, it is on the head coach.

If you think college coaches should keep their jobs when they are failing to perform up to expectations, then why hire a guy like Farley in the first place? He isn't exactly the nicest guy to pass through campus or the smartest, but he is expected to know more about winning football games than the smarter or nicer guy.

My vote starts with Farley replacing Nelson, Verduzco, and Salmon before next season. I'm sure all three of these guys are probably nicer than Farley, but our oline, QBs, and offense in general are continually underperforming. This goes back way beyond the past three years, for anyone who's been following closely.

I agree. Time to get some new offensive guys in there. Farley might be tough to deal with, especially on defense, but the offense is what has cost UNI games and playoff runs.

If Farley can't or won't fire them, arrange for them to get positions at other schools first. If that doesn't work out, then we can talk about letting the head coach go.

[ban basketball]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Do you honestly believe people are pissed off because of that that ONE pass? The game was lost before that play, the season was off the rails before this game, and the program has been off since before this season.

This is just a continuation of a 3+ year pattern of failure and THAT is why people are, rightly, pissed. Its a sustained period of mediocrity which would lead any reasonable person to conclude that the coaching staff is not doing a good job and have to be held accountable.

I think that you keep missing my point. A coach is not SOLELY responsible for a team's successes and failures, and when people are calling for a coach's job and assuming that all will be well when the coach is gone, they overlook that there are more factors involved than just one person.

I bring up the pass because, as I said before, Farley didn't throw that pass, and likely would have advised against it, which shows that there was more to the loss than just one person, as there is more to the "poor performance" over the years (I disagree) than just one person.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I think that you keep missing my point. A coach is not SOLELY responsible for a team's successes and failures, and when people are calling for a coach's job and assuming that all will be well when the coach is gone, they overlook that there are more factors involved than just one person.

I bring up the pass because, as I said before, Farley didn't throw that pass, and likely would have advised against it, which shows that there was more to the loss than just one person, as there is more to the "poor performance" over the years (I disagree) than just one person.

I get what you're saying, but a pattern over time of things like this happening points to coaching.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I think that you keep missing my point. A coach is not SOLELY responsible for a team's successes and failures, and when people are calling for a coach's job and assuming that all will be well when the coach is gone, they overlook that there are more factors involved than just one person.

I bring up the pass because, as I said before, Farley didn't throw that pass, and likely would have advised against it, which shows that there was more to the loss than just one person, as there is more to the "poor performance" over the years (I disagree) than just one person.

So you obviously believe that Doug Schwab has had zero to do with UNI's recruiting successes and performance on the mat, right?

[in_the_stands]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Thank goodness for the "Ignore" list.

[achrist70]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I have been pretty steady in supporting coach Farley, but Saturday sent me over the edge, I truly don't think he has to go, but he needs the ultimatum of either Salmon goes, or all of you go.

I have actually been one of the few on here that has supported Salmon in the past as well.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I have been pretty steady in supporting coach Farley, but Saturday sent me over the edge, I truly don't think he has to go, but he needs the ultimatum of either Salmon goes, or all of you go.

I have actually been one of the few on here that has supported Salmon in the past as well.

There certainly seems to be some momentum for your opinions above.

IMO, one thing that definitely needs to go is the love affair with athletic, running QBs who can't throw. No offense at all to Brion, Rennie, etc., but that's not a sustainable solution over a whole season. I think Farley, Salmon, etc. have been intrigued with that concept ever since playing against Tracy Ham way back in the day (just an educated guess). For the super athlete QB to work, he needs to be a passing threat in addition to a runner, and needs to stay close to 100% healthy all year long. Again, not sustainable. PLEASE ditch the QB rotation, stick with the one guy who is the better passer, and work the offense around his strengths and weaknesses, and the strengths and weaknesses of your offensive line.

[UNIstudent]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

I'd like to see us get with the times and do some hurry up/ no huddle. I don't expect them to at this point. But going into the season with a weak offensive line, we should have planned on keeping the other team off balance and catching them before they're ready with some mis direction and short passes. I think that type of offense would have fit well for this team. Don't ask the line to block for a 9 or 7 step drop because clearly they can't. They also can't just line up and blow people off the ball.