Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Are you suggesting coaches shouldn't be judged based upon their performance? lol, wow.

To me, the game officially was lost last night in our final possession. Was it Farley that threw the wild pass, completely out of his ass to end our chances?

Something to think about, my man.

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Oh boy. Ban and his "coaches for life or you aren't a real fan" deal again. Penrith part deux. Funny thing is that worked out "OK" I'd say.

Yeah, I'll be here to remind you when some down seasons come sometime in the future.

[Trapped in California]

When the team was doing well, why weren't people calling for Farley's job then? When we gave Iowa a run for their money this year, why weren't you calling for his job? Did he just somehow start getting really bad as a coach as of late? If so, what changed?

I've played sport long enough to know-football at the collegiate level too-that there's more to a team winning and losing that just one person; e.g., the coach, which is ALWAYS everyone's scapegoat when things aren't going "fans" way.

Once we get back on track, it should be fun to read the posts about how Farley is suddenly a coaching genius again. I'll always be here to remind you all of how ridiculous this always looks.

Apparently you were not reading that thread

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[UNIpanther99]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Farley is and always will be a great UNI Panther. Whatever happens now will not change that. But he's a big boy and making good D1 FCS money. He deserves some serious heat for where the program is right now, and it's reasonable to expect that he make serious changes and soon.

[06panther10]

When the team was doing well, why weren't people calling for Farley's job then? When we gave Iowa a run for their money this year, why weren't you calling for his job? Did he just somehow start getting really bad as a coach as of late? If so, what changed?



I've played sport long enough to know-football at the collegiate level too-that there's more to a team winning and losing that just one person; e.g., the coach, which is ALWAYS everyone's scapegoat when things aren't going "fans" way.



Once we get back on track, it should be fun to read the posts about how Farley is suddenly a coaching genius again. I'll always be here to remind you all of how ridiculous this always looks.

Why would you think anyone would call for a coaches head when things are going well? LOL

Your whole argument here is DUMB. Just dumb.

[06panther10]

To me, the game officially was lost last night in our final possession. Was it Farley that threw the wild pass, completely out of his ass to end our chances?

Something to think about, my man.

Right, and really when you think about it, maybe we should not even have coaches in any of our sports. Considering, they are not responsible for the wins or losses on the playing field, and also can't be held responsible for the way that any of the players perform, why even waste all of that money to employ them at all?

Just something to think about, my man.

[06panther10]

When I heard Jared Farley was not redshirting and potentially going to start, I knew Farley was worried about his own agenda. I was in the program for five years under Farley and not one, NOT ONE! true freshmen at linebacker did not redshirt let alone get in a game. But his kid is good enough for that? What a joke...

Yes, he is good enough for that. Farley and the whole staff deserve a ton of blame and criticism for our play the last 3 years, but this Jake/Jared playing time talk is GARBAGE.

We heard the same exact crap two years ago when Jake started starting, and he is a tremendous player.

[Cat80]

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For the life of me I've never been able to understand how fans can make coaches go from hero to goat, all based on a "bad" season or two.

Do they suddenly lose their abilities to coach in a short time period, or are there numerous other factors involved that explain why a TEAM (hint, hint) isn't performing?

How's Brad doing these days? oops.

[Blue42]

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Yes, he is good enough for that. Farley and the whole staff deserve a ton of blame and criticism for our play the last 3 years, but this Jake/Jared playing time talk is GARBAGE.

We heard the same exact crap two years ago when Jake started starting, and he is a tremendous player.

I's not the same exact thing. The situation this year is very different. And harder to explain.

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

On Monday afternoon Dannen should sit down with Farley and get the cards on the table...NOW. Not after the season is over with and this team with reportedly the best talent in the last five years doesn't even get a sniff at the playoffs...again.
Things are not working out as everyone had hoped. UNI probably loses to Illinois State and North Dakota State and maybe even SIU. That would be seven losses on the season and NO ONE saw that coming.
Looking ahead to basketball, Coach Jacobson needs to get the Panthers back into the NCAA tournament...one way or another. UNI hasn't won a game in St. Louis in four years. UNI will probably have to finish in the top three in the league and win at least two games in St. Louis to even have a shot at an NCAA bid or it will be another second tier tournament with all that talent available this year.
UNI football is apparently fading away again this year. If that happens with basketball the two best sports at UNI will be headed downhill faster than anyone would care to deal with.

I agree.

Both programs are awful at this point. Football needs fresh voices on offense and I think they would be ok. A real QB and they probably only have 1 loss. Would love to see a QB besides the two that play. Get ready for next year because this year is in the toilet.

Basketball dropped the ball the first two seasons after the Sweet 16 year. They didn't expand their recruiting at all. Basketball will not draw 2000 a game after this year if it goes bad. Jake might be the best X's and O's coach in the league but he is near the bottom in recruiting.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Coaches are employees of a business just like everyone else. They get paid a salary based upon an expectation of continued and future performance. If they no longer are meeting those expectations, and have established a recent track record indicating they are going to fail to do so in the future, then you must make a choice. Either you can find someone to do that job who can meet your expectations, or you stick with who you have an accept present results.

UNI football has faced this situation before, and a coach who had proven, over a significant amount of time, unable to meet expectations was replaced. We're in year 3 of matching or failing to meet those same results. So either changes are made, or the program dies slowly.

There's nothing special about UNI. There is no systemic advantage other than a perception of success and excellence. UNI has seen program rise and fall. There is no reason this program can't find itself on the backside of that same cycle.

Farley has earned plenty of leeway, but if he doesn't have a plan to turn this thing around, then UNI has to find someone who does. It's really that simple.

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Why would you think anyone would call for a coaches head when things are going well? LOL

Your whole argument here is DUMB. Just dumb.

Of course we won't call for their head when they are winning, but my point was to ask how he went from being a great coach, and still considered to be "doing a great job" when we played Iowa this year, to being someone who needs to be fired in just a few years.

My question has always been, has he somehow gotten worse as a coach? When we start winning again, will he have gotten really good as a coach again?

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

Right, and really when you think about it, maybe we should not even have coaches in any of our sports. Considering, they are not responsible for the wins or losses on the playing field, and also can't be held responsible for the way that any of the players perform, why even waste all of that money to employ them at all?

Just something to think about, my man.

They're not SOLELY responsible. That's my point. People who know nothing about the game are the ones who place it ALL on coaches.

The coaches don't play the game, and the coach CERTAINLY didn't throw that reckless interception last night that ended all of our chances.

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Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

How's Brad doing these days? oops.

My understanding is that all is well for him at the Mudd Group, but I wouldn't know.

I'll keep you in mind too when we start having some down years in the future with the wrestling team, which will eventually happen.

You're sure enjoying riding the bandwagon though now, aren't you? Nice fan support.

[UNIChippewa]

Re: Should Mark Farley be fired after the season?

For the life of me I've never been able to understand how fans can make coaches go from hero to goat, all based on a "bad" season or two.

Do they suddenly lose their abilities to coach in a short time period, or are there numerous other factors involved that explain why a TEAM (hint, hint) isn't performing?

You are the same guy who started ripping on Jacobson theminute after we lost to Michigan State in the Sweet 16 back in '10. You don't have any credibility whatsoever.

As for the topic at hand...I don't think Farley goes after thisseason, whether it's deserved or not, but I do think a prime spot on the proverbial "hot seat" is entirely fair and justified, especially if there aren't any changes in the off-season.