Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Mariota threw and rushed for less yards against Washington than Adams did. His offense also put up less points. Granted, Oregon had 14 more rushing attempts than Eastern did but Mariota played the whole game and put up weaker stats than Adams...

oh, and Oregon's season opener? Eastern Washington

[SteinPizza]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

My question is....is he really good enough to start at Oregon? Don't get me wrong he is a good QB but we are talking about going from the "Big Sky" to the Pac 12. The Big Sky is definitely not known for its defensive prowess. His numbers are inflated quite a bit in that conference.

The PAC 12 isn't exactly known as a defensive league. Granted, they'll have some awesome individual players, and better units as a whole than he'd ever see at EWU. But, games in that league can turn into track meets. Same with the Big 12. Neither approximates the SEC in terms of defensive talent by the better teams. Pete Carroll had some awesome defensive units while at USC, but he also left a few years ago.

[SoccerDobber]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Mariota threw and rushed for less yards against Washington than Adams did. His offense also put up less points. Granted, Oregon had 14 more rushing attempts than Eastern did but Mariota played the whole game and put up weaker stats than Adams...

oh, and Oregon's season opener? Eastern Washington

I saw that it was the season opener. It's going to be interesting whether he stays or goes. Nothing like playing against your old teammates game #1 or playing with your teammates against the team you were going to leave them for.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Do you think Adams showed up on their radar when they started looking at the season opener or when he torched Pac 12 teams?

[P. compressa]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

I don't post much here but this subject got me a bit riled up.

He is not a transfer he is a graduate of a program and he has satisfied his commitment to that program.

If he was a back up not getting playing time and he wanted to transfer he would have to sit out a year to go to a similar tiered program. Yet if he was a horrid player Eastern Washington could have pulled his scholarship after his first or second year. The letter of intent that is signed by NCAA athletes is the most one sided agreements one can sign regarding restricting the athlete's movement while giving the school the right to pull support for a number of reasons.

If he is leaving it may be because there are bigger issues with his situation there, such as abusive coaches, bad working relationships lack of community. Graduating is the only way out of a one sided abusive contract that does not allow athletes to move laterally or up despite what can be awful conditions.

I doubt he has experienced a situation as bad as this but, for some athletes that last year after graduating, moving to a new school to study a subject you want to study and join a program with the knowledge of the importance of working relationships is a way to salvage your love of a game.

I will state it again he is not a transfer rather a graduate and he satisfied his side of the contract. Eastern Washington also satisfied their side of the contract but, they would have satisfied their side if they pulled his scholarship after one year.

[Mudrafan]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

I don't post much here but this subject got me a bit riled up.

He is not a transfer he is a graduate of a program and he has satisfied his commitment to that program.

If he was a back up not getting playing time and he wanted to transfer he would have to sit out a year to go to a similar tiered program. Yet if he was a horrid player Eastern Washington could have pulled his scholarship after his first or second year. The letter of intent that is signed by NCAA athletes is the most one sided agreements one can sign regarding restricting the athlete's movement while giving the school the right to pull support for a number of reasons.

If he is leaving it may be because there are bigger issues with his situation there, such as abusive coaches, bad working relationships lack of community. Graduating is the only way out of a one sided abusive contract that does not allow athletes to move laterally or up despite what can be awful conditions.

I doubt he has experienced a situation as bad as this but, for some athletes that last year after graduating, moving to a new school to study a subject you want to study and join a program with the knowledge of the importance of working relationships is a way to salvage your love of a game.

I will state it again he is not a transfer rather a graduate and he satisfied his side of the contract. Eastern Washington also satisfied their side of the contract but, they would have satisfied their side if they pulled his scholarship after one year.

It is still a lame loophole that should be closed.

[krusej23]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

I don't post much here but this subject got me a bit riled up.

He is not a transfer he is a graduate of a program and he has satisfied his commitment to that program.

If he was a back up not getting playing time and he wanted to transfer he would have to sit out a year to go to a similar tiered program. Yet if he was a horrid player Eastern Washington could have pulled his scholarship after his first or second year. The letter of intent that is signed by NCAA athletes is the most one sided agreements one can sign regarding restricting the athlete's movement while giving the school the right to pull support for a number of reasons.

If he is leaving it may be because there are bigger issues with his situation there, such as abusive coaches, bad working relationships lack of community. Graduating is the only way out of a one sided abusive contract that does not allow athletes to move laterally or up despite what can be awful conditions.

I doubt he has experienced a situation as bad as this but, for some athletes that last year after graduating, moving to a new school to study a subject you want to study and join a program with the knowledge of the importance of working relationships is a way to salvage your love of a game.

I will state it again he is not a transfer rather a graduate and he satisfied his side of the contract. Eastern Washington also satisfied their side of the contract but, they would have satisfied their side if they pulled his scholarship after one year.

He actually is a transfer if you knew the rules. He is a graduate transfer.

I do agree that the agreement student-athletes enter into is very one-sided. I say athletes take advantage of any loophole they can to make their lives better.

Maybe he's leaving because Oregon gets 100 times the attention from the NFL than Eastern Washington does. Unless you know something that we don't know.

Here are the rules for you to read up on.
Graduate Transfer Waiver
The graduate transfer waiver is now typically used by athletes who have previous transferred once before and so cannot use the one-time transfer exception (even as a graduate student).

A letter from the previous school saying it does not object to the student-athlete being eligible;

Documentation that the student-athlete has been accepted into a specific graduate degree program;

Documentation about whether that degree program is offered by the previous school;
A student-athlete statement including the reasons for the transfer; and

A statement from the previous institution about the student-athlete’s status on the team.

Generally the heart of the waiver is the three middle bullets. The NCAA wants to see that the student-athlete transferred in order to continue his or her academic career by pursuing a graduate degree not offered at the previous school.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

He actually is a transfer if you knew the rules. He is a graduate transfer.

I do agree that the agreement student-athletes enter into is very one-sided. I say athletes take advantage of any loophole they can to make their lives better.

Maybe he's leaving because Oregon gets 100 times the attention from the NFL than Eastern Washington does. Unless you know something that we don't know.

Here are the rules for you to read up on.
Graduate Transfer Waiver
The graduate transfer waiver is now typically used by athletes who have previous transferred once before and so cannot use the one-time transfer exception (even as a graduate student).

A letter from the previous school saying it does not object to the student-athlete being eligible;

Documentation that the student-athlete has been accepted into a specific graduate degree program;

Documentation about whether that degree program is offered by the previous school;
A student-athlete statement including the reasons for the transfer; and

A statement from the previous institution about the student-athlete’s status on the team.

Generally the heart of the waiver is the three middle bullets. The NCAA wants to see that the student-athlete transferred in order to continue his or her academic career by pursuing a graduate degree not offered at the previous school.

I would hope Eastern balks at this and says no way. Well, it might not be that simple. Are the Eastern Washington Coach and Oregon coach "friends?"

[BCPanther]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

I would hope Eastern balks at this and says no way. Well, it might not be that simple. Are the Eastern Washington Coach and Oregon coach "friends?"

EWU's coach only has one hat.

So this will be a no go...

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

EWU's coach only has one hat.

So this will be a no go...

And it's a visor.

[06panther10]

Made it official today. He's going to Oregon.

Good for us, terrible for FCS...

[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Made it official today. He's going to Oregon.

Good for us, terrible for FCS...

Let the flood gates open...

Schmadeke isn't going to graduate in May is he? Think there aren't 75 teams in FBS that would take him in a heartbeat?

[SoccerDobber]

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Let the flood gates open...

Schmadeke isn't going to graduate in May is he? Think there aren't 75 teams in FBS that would take him in a heartbeat?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10836614_10205996323974072_2136417984_n.jpg?oh=fb834d1dd371d16aa872aeac8f257faa&oe=54DBA3BC&__gda__=1423628461_c6eab94d319aeea7774ee15a1a5b9e59

Done deal. Let the games begin.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Thank god? Thank god? FU punk, how about you thank Eastern Washington and your team mates for the last four years, what about them?

[BCPanther]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

That just made our path to getting into the playoffs much, much easier.

This is shady as hell, but at least it benefits us for once...