Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

[Trapped in California]

To Oregon?

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[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

This is truly unfortunate and changes EVERYTHING when it comes to FCS players. Could you imagine if David would have transferred this year to Iowa? How would we have reacted to that? As nice as it would be to not have to face this young man this season, I hope with every fiber of my being that this doesn't happen. This rule needs to be looked at very closely. I get the rule, but this is abusing it plain and simple.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Not seeing the big deal. He would be a graduate transfer...will graduate from East Wash this year. What's the harm in playing another year and possibly getting a draft boost and exposure if he has no more eligibility for the Eagles? Did you even look at the article?

[jegbomb52]

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Not seeing the big deal. He would be a graduate transfer...will graduate from East Wash this year. What's the harm in playing another year and possibly getting a draft boost and exposure if he has no more eligibility for the Eagles? Did you even look at the article?

Where did you see he has no more eligibility for the Eagles? He has a year left. He is their best returning starter. Him leaving their program takes them from a top five team to team that will struggle to make the playoffs...

Im telling you folks, imagine this would have been David's junior year, and we were planning on him coming back next year. And all of a sudden he chooses to transfer to go take grad classes at Iowa when he could have taken them at UNI.

This is a selfish, heartless transfer, of him stomping on the institution that made him who he is. If this is allowed you will see an increase in this each year. We can not allow schools like Oregon to treat the FCS, or other FBS schools like the minor leagues...

[Trapped in California]

This is comparable to the Andre Martin transfer

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[Blue42]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

This is comparable to the Andre Martin transfer

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I was thinking the same thing.

Gonna be hard for Adams to stay at EWU if Oregon doesn't pan out...now that this story has broke.

Hard to get the fellas back behind you.

[jegbomb52]

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I was thinking the same thing.

Gonna be hard for Adams to stay at EWU if Oregon doesn't pan out...now that this story has broke.

Hard to get the fellas back behind you.

I agree, the problem is athletically you can't bench him...

And... this is nothing like the Martin transfer. Martin was not an impact player at Northern Iowa, let alone a runner up to the Peyton award. Also, Martin transferred to be with the man that recruited him to Northern Iowa, also to an equal tier program. This is Oregon poaching the best returning player in FCS and abusing a rule to do it...

[krusej23]

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Transferring up to better schools has become a big thing in basketball. It's starting to become bigger in football now. Especially with graduate transfers. Hoiberg has created his team from transferring in kids from some smaller schools. I don't blame these kids for doing this but I wouldn't do it.

Say in your junior and senior year of high school you are good enough to go to a small college for a sport. Then freshmen and sophomore year you grow a little and become better than your league. Go to a bigger league and get more attention.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

Transferring up to better schools has become a big thing in basketball. It's starting to become bigger in football now. Especially with graduate transfers. Hoiberg has created his team from transferring in kids from some smaller schools. I don't blame these kids for doing this but I wouldn't do it.

Say in your junior and senior year of high school you are good enough to go to a small college for a sport. Then freshmen and sophomore year you grow a little and become better than your league. Go to a bigger league and get more attention.

the basketball thing is happening with players that are not getting their shot, or come in and play as freshman then transfer. Not pillars of the team that have been elected captain for their senior season...

[northwest iowa panther]

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Didn't we have an offensive lineman from Upper Iowa?

[ubuntuCAT]

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I agree, the problem is athletically you can't bench him...

And... this is nothing like the Martin transfer. Martin was not an impact player at Northern Iowa, let alone a runner up to the Peyton award. Also, Martin transferred to be with the man that recruited him to Northern Iowa, also to an equal tier program. This is Oregon poaching the best returning player in FCS and abusing a rule to do it...

wonder if it will get worse with the "cost of attendance" Full ride scholly won't be the same at FCS/FBS financially any more.

[jegbomb52]

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Didn't we have an offensive lineman from Upper Iowa?

i seem to remember something like that, came in after two years at upper iowa, not after four years, three of which being the starter, and on his way to be a captain.

Just stop and think about it. Those of you that think this is not a big deal. This is bigger to them than if DJ had another year and chose to transfer to Iowa.

Transfer rules are set up for kids that are in situations that are not working out, or academically limit them. Neither of which is the case in this situation. This is Oregon abusing a rule, and a young man making a selfish decision. Regardless of whether or not he transfers though, damage is already done...

[SteinPizza]

Re: Vernon Adams QB @ Eastern Washington to transfer?

This is a selfish, heartless transfer, of him stomping on the institution that made him who he is. If this is allowed you will see an increase in this each year. We can not allow schools like Oregon to treat the FCS, or other FBS schools like the minor leagues...

You bring up some good points, and I can see both sides of this. But, if he graduates, and is going to enroll in a program not offered by EWU, then you have to let him do it. The rule, while in effect, should work both ways. Also, FCS football fans haven't complained too loudly when someone like Joe Flacco, Randy Moss, Jewell Hampton, or even David Horne comes to play. Granted, they left for differing reasons other than a minor league situation, but they did so without loosing eligibility, and had not graduated. Maybe the NCAA takes a look at the FCS transfer rule at the same time?

Did NC State fans raise issues when Russell Wilson left for Wisky? He was a starter there. The "minor league" aspect of this does violate the spirit of the rules which imply that academics is equal or more important than sports, so the NCAA may take issue on those grounds. It would be hypocrisy, and smoke and mirrors BS on their part, but they still may say something.

[95UNIGRAD]

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You bring up some good points, and I can see both sides of this. But, if he graduates, and is going to enroll in a program not offered by EWU, then you have to let him do it. The rule, while in effect, should work both ways. Also, FCS football fans haven't complained too loudly when someone like Joe Flacco, Randy Moss, Jewell Hampton, or even David Horne comes to play. Granted, they left for differing reasons other than a minor league situation, but they did so without loosing eligibility, and had not graduated. Maybe the NCAA takes a look at the FCS transfer rule at the same time?

Did NC State fans raise issues when Russell Wilson left for Wisky? He was a starter there. The "minor league" aspect of this does violate the spirit of the rules which imply that academics is equal or more important than sports, so the NCAA may take issue on those grounds. It would be hypocrisy, and smoke and mirrors BS on their part, but they still may say something.

You make some great points, especially your first about enrolling in a program not offered by EWU. Unless this starts happening frequently, I'm not really worried about it. How many times has a guy that was a good recruit not had things turn out at the FBS level and gone FCS purely to avoid sitting out a year? It works both ways, at least for now.

[sivert]

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They have to Finnish their undergrad degree and then choose a field of study not offered at their previous school, right? Didn't we have a player graduate and then spend a year at NDSU a couple years ago?