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[DownGoesKansas]

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He can play with the media all he wants but my hope is he's picked one and he's running them with every snap they can get. Dicking around with the QB situation seems to be Farley's MO and it's burned UNI in recent years

I fully expect this to continue.

[achrist70]

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I heard that Preston Woods had some health issues in the off season, wouldn't surprise me at all if he took his redshirt year this year.

[wretched]

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Man pretty young team all over the field. Hope the Panthers can handle the brutual opening 5 game stretch, if they can and come out no worse than 3-2 I think they could really do some damage down the stretch and into the playoffs!

[Unionpanther]

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It listed SK as 1st qb and Barkley Hill as 2nd middle linebacker, when did that happen? That online is really young. The online has been the weak link the last couple of years and that doesn't look to change.

[Trapped in California]

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QB hasn't been publicly decided. Hill was moved to LB in the spring.

Short passing routes/quick release in the spread should (in theory) help new oline by allow for shorter protection time requirements. Probably the biggest unknown of anything in new offense.

[SteinPizza]

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QB hasn't been publicly decided. Hill was moved to LB in the spring.

Short passing routes/quick release in the spread should (in theory) help new oline by allow for shorter protection time requirements. Probably the biggest unknown of anything in new offense.

ISU's DL is supposedly improved too, via some transfers they brought in. They have one DT in particular who's apparently opened some eyes in practice. These are transfers though, who have yet to take an ISU snap, and this "news" is being filtered through the Cylon coaches. Could be a decent test for a young OL.

[Trapped in California]

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The one DL that is Jhaustin Thomas, if we are on the same wave length. The problem with him is that he is not in shape yet. Good for about 2-3 plays.

If the UNI offense runs like it did in the spring game (similar to MT's offense vs NDSU), there is no way that Thomas could contribute if his conditioning is as rumored. He isn't even listed on the ISU depth chart, for as little as that is worth.

On paper, the UNI uptempo offense should be causing all kinds of headaches for a defense that has not played together yet. The weather in the low 80s/high 70s at start of game would probably UNI O help as long as we can sustain some drives.

[Panther AC]

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The one DL that is Jhaustin Thomas, if we are on the same wave length. The problem with him is that he is not in shape yet. Good for about 2-3 plays.

If the UNI offense runs like it did in the spring game (similar to MT's offense vs NDSU), there is no way that Thomas could contribute if his conditioning is as rumored. He isn't even listed on the ISU depth chart, for as little as that is worth.

On paper, the UNI uptempo offense should be causing all kinds of headaches for a defense that has not played together yet. The weather in the low 80s/high 70s at start of game would probably UNI O help as long as we can sustain some drives.

Demond Tucker is the defensive lineman you are thinking of. He's a JUCO transfer starting nose guard who made quite a stir when recruited, saying he would be the defensive player of the year in the Big 12 and ISU would win the conference! He hasn't backed away from that prediction this fall so it will be interesting to see him in person Saturday night. Your man Thomas is listed third on the depth chart at left end.

[run&blade]

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Can the Illinois transfer qb throw or will we be seeing a running qb that is very iffy with the pass? Frankly I am sick of that, uni has wasted some of the best defenses they have ever had several years in a row because the qb can't hit the broad side of a barn when they need it.

Running qb'a are fun but they will not deliver the goods in November and December.

[panther-state]

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Can the Illinois transfer qb throw or will we be seeing a running qb that is very iffy with the pass? Frankly I am sick of that, uni has wasted some of the best defenses they have ever had several years in a row because the qb can't hit the broad side of a barn when they need it.

Running qb'a are fun but they will not deliver the goods in November and December.

I think Demos is the only one that is more of the "running" QB. Bailey has running ability and speed but supposedly has a good arm as well. Sawyer is obviously a thrower and Dunne is too with mobility somewhere in the middle I'd guess

[claw]

Bailey was seen by Illinois fans thw same way we viewed Carnes, FWIW

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[Bones]

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Illinois fans are idiots. When Bailey arrived on campus he could throw. The OC fell in love with his hand picked QB and figured Bailey would just roll over.

[panther-state]

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Bailey was seen by Illinois fans thw same way we viewed Carnes, FWIW

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I don't think any of us believed Brion had an arm. From what I have read I was led to believe that Bailey has the tools to be a runner and gunner. Demos was the one who was supposedly heavily reliant on running. Or I'm mixing the two up

[run&blade]

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I can't keep the names straight. I just want the best thrower to play, if they are slow as molasses I fine with it.

[claw]

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I don't think any of us believed Brion had an arm. From what I have read I was led to believe that Bailey has the tools to be a runner and gunner. Demos was the one who was supposedly heavily reliant on running. Or I'm mixing the two up

I think you have it backwards. Bailey supposedly ran a sub 4.5 40 in high school. All of his recruiting articles mention he has some (depending on how heavily invested the school was in recruiting him) moderate to sever mechanical issues with his throwing motion that need to be fixed. Very small sample size while at Illinois but he was 13-27 122 yards 2 TD 1 INT. Those are very, very, similar to Carnes numbers. In high school as a senior he threw for 1,000 yards and ran for 2,000

Look at Demos's passing numbers:
From his CCU profile
Ranked #1 passer in Missouri in 2011 ... Participated in the ESPN/Rise Elite 11 QB camps held at TCU and Ohio State ... 2011 first team Missouri Sportswriters and Sportscasters Class 6 All-State ... Finalist for the Gatorade Missouri Football Player of the Year ... Completed 165-of-311 passes (.531) and threw for 2,764 yards and 34 touchdowns as a senior ... Led CBC to a 13-1 record and a trip to the 2011 Missouri Class 6 championship game ... Received the "Army Strong Award' as the Player of the Week in the Great American Football Classic at The Edward Jones Dome against DeSmet, completed 16-of-29 attempts for 349 yards and caught a 56-yard touchdown pass ... Team captain in 2011 and team MVP (2010) ... Named second team All-Metro Catholic Conference as a junior ... Ranked No. 15 on St. Louis Today's Super 30 list and CBC was ranked No. 40 on the ESPNHS FAB 50 ... As a junior, completed 52 percent of his passes for 2,038 yards with 12 TDs passing and two rushing.

So in high school he threw for 4,700 yards in 2 years with 48 TDs while completing 53% of his passes.

At CCU he was 4-7 for 56 yards with a TD - he did have 13 rushes for 85 yards (6.5 ypc) and 1 TD.

At Hutchinson he was 97-176 (55.1) 1,120 yards 15 TD 3 INT with 48 carries for 200 yards.


He appears to be the one capable of mixing throwing and running better than Bailey. It's tough to say who is better though. There is a reason that Bailey was a 4* in high school with offers from Illinois, Arizona, Bostcon College, Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northewstern, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Purdue and Wisconsin. I wonder how many of them wanted to keep him at QB though. He never managed to live up to even part of his hype at Illinois, but is that a byproduct of him or Illinois being Illinois?

No matter who is picked I really hope Farley gets the hell out of the way of Davis and lets him pick a QB, stick with them, and run a damn offense.