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  • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

    Do you really need to pay FCA in wrestling? Who is uni competing against for recruits? Seems to me the sport is slowly dieing at the college level and kids should be happy to even get a scholarship.

    If a big ten or big 12 school are offering I doubt uni is going to win the kid over with COA.

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    • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

      Wrestling isn't getting FCOA. Both basketball teams and Volleyball have it now. If we decide to add football, all women's sports will get it. Wrestling, Men's Track, and Men's Golf are the bottom of the list.

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      • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

        Originally posted by ubuntuCAT View Post
        http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...2010RevExp.pdf






        To summarize for all of the reading problems I've seen in this thread. Over half of FBS schools make money on football and basketball every year. 4 percent of FCS football programs make money on football 5 percent on basketball. Take the low side (50%) and that means what 64 FBS made money? Plus another 5 FCS schools made money in each of the last 7 years.

        I'm not great at math but to me 69 is far greater than 22. (previously stated that only 22 football programs make money).
        First of all, there are conflicting articles so I wouldn't be so confident with your boast. Secondly, the point still stands in that with > 350 D1 football schools, a very small number of them make money in football. When you consider that, in a best case scenario, only 4% of the FCS schools make money (I still believe that is high) then the fact remains that this was not meant for FCS teams. The fact that a handful of FCS teams are even talking about it speaks for their selfishness. All they are doing is pushing for the demise of FCS football as it stands.

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        • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

          Originally posted by run&blade View Post
          Do you really need to pay FCA in wrestling? Who is uni competing against for recruits? Seems to me the sport is slowly dieing at the college level and kids should be happy to even get a scholarship.

          If a big ten or big 12 school are offering I doubt uni is going to win the kid over with COA.
          Northern Iowa could drop athletics and still be over budget. That's what frustrates me the most.

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          • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

            Originally posted by run&blade View Post
            Do you really need to pay FCA in wrestling? Who is uni competing against for recruits? Seems to me the sport is slowly dieing at the college level and kids should be happy to even get a scholarship.

            If a big ten or big 12 school are offering I doubt uni is going to win the kid over with COA.
            It would really, really help wrestling, maybe even more than football. UNI is recruiting, and landing, top ten recruits and going head to head with the best the sport has to offer and winning (recruiting wise), without FCOA. It'd be cool to see what they could do with it.

            Although I do understand that because A. they do such a good job without it that they don't really need it and 2. other sports are the priority.

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            • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

              Dannen has said in the past the only two sports at UNI competing on a regular basis for recruits against power 5 schools are volleyball and wrestling.

              This comment was also in the context of COA discussions, so I am not so sure wrestling is at the bottom of the priority list.
              Originally posted by TH1974
              This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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              • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                Wrestling isn't getting FCOA. Both basketball teams and Volleyball have it now. If we decide to add football, all women's sports will get it. Wrestling, Men's Track, and Men's Golf are the bottom of the list.
                Men's/Women's BB and Volleyball would all need to make the NCAA Tourney to have a reasonable chance of a balanced budget in the athletic department.

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                • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                  Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                  Wrestling isn't getting FCOA. Both basketball teams and Volleyball have it now. If we decide to add football, all women's sports will get it. Wrestling, Men's Track, and Men's Golf are the bottom of the list.
                  The problem is we can't afford FCOA. Football, wrestling, and the rest of women's sports will get it. We will drop down to 14 sports. Two men's sports will go. Football will move up to FBS. We will always be in the red.

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                  • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                    Sorry if somebody already posted something about this but it looks like some FCS schools are already starting a movement against full cost of attendance at FCS schools.

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                    • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                      Originally posted by UNIAlum2010 View Post
                      Sorry if somebody already posted something about this but it looks like some FCS schools are already starting a movement against full cost of attendance at FCS schools.

                      http://www.elonpendulum.com/article/...endance-letter
                      Thank you for posting, 2010.
                      "Well, that escalated quickly."

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                        Originally posted by UNIAlum2010 View Post
                        Sorry if somebody already posted something about this but it looks like some FCS schools are already starting a movement against full cost of attendance at FCS schools.

                        http://www.elonpendulum.com/article/...endance-letter
                        Thank you for the article. I think the article makes a good case against FCOA. Colleges and Universities are nonprofit organizations. Schools are tapping the reserve fund to balance the budget year after year. Colleges are sacrificing finances to entertain the public.

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                        • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                          Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                          Thank you for the article. I think the article makes a good case against FCOA. Colleges and Universities are nonprofit organizations. Schools are tapping the reserve fund to balance the budget year after year. Colleges are sacrificing finances to entertain the public.
                          Actually at schools like UNI and tons of others the finances sacrificed are going to no entertainment because they go to no-revenue no-fans sports.
                          "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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                          • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                            Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                            Thank you for the article. I think the article makes a good case against FCOA. Colleges and Universities are nonprofit organizations. Schools are tapping the reserve fund to balance the budget year after year. Colleges are sacrificing finances to entertain the public.
                            Originally posted by ubuntuCAT View Post
                            Actually at schools like UNI and tons of others the finances sacrificed are going to no entertainment because they go to no-revenue no-fans sports.
                            True and true.
                            "Well, that escalated quickly."

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                            • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                              Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                              The problem is we can't afford FCOA. Football, wrestling, and the rest of women's sports will get it. We will drop down to 14 sports. Two men's sports will go. Football will move up to FBS. We will always be in the red.
                              Two mens sports will not go away. Getting rid of golf wouldn't save any money, as I don't think they give scholarships. And there's no way we get rid of our mens track or XC, as isn't there a proposed facility upgrade floating in the near future? And they aren't touching football, basketball, or wrestling due to our success in those sports. Track and XC will likely be reduced in terms of funding but will likely still exist. Maybe title 9 will be revised by then? The way title 9 is set up is so restricting and instead of creating opportunities, it is pretty much destroying them.

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                              • Re: Full Cost of Attendance

                                Originally posted by Gocats15 View Post
                                Maybe title 9 will be revised by then? The way title 9 is set up is so restricting and instead of creating opportunities, it is pretty much destroying them.
                                skyrocketing athletic expenses are what is destroying opportunities.
                                Title IX ensures that schools can't rob their womens sports in order to feed their football/MBB industries.

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