Full Cost of Attendance

[Mudrafan]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

I am voting against the entire idea of COA in FCS football. FCS was expressly created to limit expenses. With the number of FBS payday games availability recently shrinking by about 10% (maybe more soon?), its a double whammy.

The law of unintended consequences has struck again.

this......NDSU are idiots for doing this when they didn't have to. To me, they are planning to go FBS. This points to that. In that case, no, we do not have to follow suit. If they are the only ones in FCS doing it, let them.

[DomeIsHome]

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Think UNI will be impacted when YSU, Montana, and SDSU are doing it as well?

As I've said before, yes.

And I agree with the above, lets get rid of it in FCS ball.

[Trapped in California]

I honestly don't think the MVFC or FCS subdivision of DI has the authority to tell member schools that they can't fund COA. The leagues and NCAA set minimum requirements for number of sports that must be offered for DI status, even going so far as to tell them which sports they must offer (in the case of MVC it's men's and women's basketball and volleyball). But the leagues don't have the authority to put a maximum on the number of sports that a member institution can offer, nor do they have the authority to tell a school the minimum or maximum amount they can pay coaches. I realize the NCAA puts maximum limits on the number of scholarships for each sport but in this case, I don't think they can tell member institutions that they are forbidden from giving COA to all sports.

under the rationale above, ivy, Pioneer and patriot league cannot offer athletic scholarship (patriot is offering below FCS max), but could offer full COA?

No bueno

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[claw]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

under the rationale above, ivy, Pioneer and patriot league cannot offer athletic scholarship (patriot is offering below FCS max), but could offer full COA?

No bueno

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NEC is also only at 40, though I believe the PL is ramping to 63 in a year or two. They are only in year 3 of scholarships and have been going 15, 30, and are 45 this year. Maybe they are only stopping at 60 though. To be honest the vast majority of schools don't give a full 63, including UNI.

[ubuntuCAT]

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I honestly don't think the MVFC or FCS subdivision of DI has the authority to tell member schools that they can't fund COA. The leagues and NCAA set minimum requirements for number of sports that must be offered for DI status, even going so far as to tell them which sports they must offer (in the case of MVC it's men's and women's basketball and volleyball). But the leagues don't have the authority to put a maximum on the number of sports that a member institution can offer, nor do they have the authority to tell a school the minimum or maximum amount they can pay coaches. I realize the NCAA puts maximum limits on the number of scholarships for each sport but in this case, I don't think they can tell member institutions that they are forbidden from giving COA to all sports.

The mvfc absolutely could regulate this if they wanted.

[Drpanther]

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I'm not sure some of you are aware how much "a wrestling" state" Iowa is. I have season tickets to football and wrestling. You drop wrestling and UNI would not see my money again. You need fans coming in all year around, not just the Fall. Different people like different sports.

[BCPanther]

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My God.

I never said we should drop wrestling. I just said it's the only sport we could drop and save a bunch of money. Dropping it isn't on the table and I'm sure it hasn't even been discussed. Gonzo goes off the deep end and everybody follows him right on down. JFC....

[GonzoCat]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

Ha, you, ubuntu, and 610 are all basically saying we are screwed in football with no chance to remain competitive with NDS unless we find the funds to match their gambit and dropping wrestling might be the only way.

Thankfully none of you are in charge of anything.

[Kyle]

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63 football COA + 63 women COA at $3,500 each is about $450k. That's a ton of scratch to a school like UNI, especially considering a second FBS game is no longer a guarantee.

And $3,500 might be underestimating the COA at UNI. Living in North Dakota is dirt cheap and they are offering $3,400/year which will reportedly cost the athletic department $700k/year.

[Kyle]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

Gonzo has gone full Ban in this thread.

[vbfan19]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

And $3,500 might be underestimating the COA at UNI. Living in North Dakota is dirt cheap and they are offering $3,400/year which will reportedly cost the athletic department $700k/year.

the data I've seen seems to indicate that the cost of living in Fargo is about the same as the cost of living in Iowa (couldn't find exact info for Cedar Falls, but Cedar Rapids was similar)

[cydave]

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For reference, ISU's is $2430 and Iowa's is $1938.
Here's a list of all BCS COA. (Number on far right)

http://m.chronicle.com/article/At%20Least%2015%20Athletic%20Programs/229229/

[Kyle]

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Strange. How is it possibly cheaper to live in Iowa City than Ames or Fargo? A piece of crap house in Iowa City will rent for $2,000/month.

[vbfan19]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

Strange. How is it possibly cheaper to live in Iowa City than Ames or Fargo? A piece of crap house in Iowa City will rent for $2,000/month.

perhaps this is a dumb question, but does a full athletic scholarship cover room and board as well as tuition? (granted, that may only be for on-campus room and board, but still). If that is the case, then perhaps rent prices aren't factored into CoA calculations.

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Full Cost of Attendance

Ha, you, ubuntu, and 610 are all basically saying we are screwed in football with no chance to remain competitive with NDS unless we find the funds to match their gambit and dropping wrestling might be the only way.

Thankfully none of you are in charge of anything.

So what's your solution?