***Game Thread NDSU, Week 6***

[Blue42]

Add to it that both Iowa and Iowa State kick off at 2:30, on TV.

What difference would it make to Iowa or Iowa State fans if we kicked at 4:00? Not like they're gonna come to the Dome at 5:30 when those games end.

We'll be fine at 1:00 fellas. It's not ideal...but not as bad as the misery crew would have u believe.

[lakesbison]

1pm start is cool... party til 1 am friday, wake up at 9am start drinking bloodys & tailgate some brats at 1130am. perfect!

ndsu travelling fanbase is getting bored with winning, just had 4 straight home game tailgates & pheasant hunting opener will hurt travel... there wont be 5000 ndsu fans like 2013 . maybe 2500.

NDSU/UNI should be "the game" in Iowa saturday.

Iowa Minn will be a snorefest rock fight
and who the heck cares about Iowa state? they will get killed 35-7 vs Okla St.

what kind of construction are we gonna have to deal with saturday..

[clenz]

YAY PREMIUM GAMES KICKING AT 1PM BECAUSE VOLLEYBALL!!!!!

It’s unfortunate you are blaming UNI VB. MVC rules require 24 hours between matches. A match Friday night at 7:00 means the match Saturday night can’t begin til 7:00... UNI doesn’t have a choice...[/QUOTE]

UNI could move that match back a half hour - even an hour.

UNI could still kick at 4 - we’ve done many (MANY) 4/7 weekends.

UNI/Harris chose volleyball over football. It’s that simple. We are kicking at 1 because of volleyball. Kick was moved to 1 because we “had to make sure” volleyball was able to be broadcast behind the ESPN+ paywall. That’s straight from David’s twitter account when the 1 PM kick was announced.

We moved our only premium game to the second least premium kick off time that exists (a head of only 11/12) and a time that is very unusual for our team simply to get a volleyball game on behind a paywall that 20 people will see. Giving free admission to the game with a football ticket also hurts the reasoning for showing it behind a paywall. At that point the majority of people who want to see it will be at the game. The rest will be people who won’t watch it at home or will be driving back to whatever out of CV town they live in.

Ill be the “misery crowd” and downer in this. Don’t care. I was called a downer and a misery group person back in 2009-2010 before I retired clenz for a while. Yet if you go look at what I was called that for at that time you’ll see people complaining about now. I guess I was just part of a group a head of the curve there



this was a gigantic missed opportunity to seek a premium game and create a premium environment.


What we we haven’t even mentioned yet is all the people that could/would go but won’t because of the incredible number of youth activities. There are thousands of kids playing youth soccer and football Saturday mornings and early afternoons. UNI wants to be the family destination yet 1PM kicks make it extremely difficult for families to actually go. I know more than a few families from my area that will not be going anymore because of the kick time. Simply can’t make it after kids events.

[BCPanther]

Older people that don't tailgate and don't have kids in activities think 1:00 is fine. They will then complain about how many NDSU fans are in the building and how dead it seems. These things can't possibly be related.

[DomeIsHome]

What difference would it make to Iowa or Iowa State fans if we kicked at 4:00? Not like they're gonna come to the Dome at 5:30 when those games end.

We'll be fine at 1:00 fellas. It's not ideal...but not as bad as the misery crew would have u believe.

I might not part of the "misery crew" yet, but even I remember a time when "fine" wasn't acceptable for UNI. That's the point that the "misery crew" is trying to make. The football team is not performing to the standards that they themselves put out there. Yes there are 100,000 different factors going into it, but the fact is that UNI hasn't won a conference championship since 2011, and in the past three playoff appearances they have won more than one game only once (2015).

There are things that can be done to boost attendance at home events - promotions, giveaways, different social media campaigns, timing of kickoffs, gameday atmosphere, etc. - and those things are largely not getting done at UNI anymore. The little things are overlooked when a team is winning. From 2005ish-2012ish those things could be ignored because the team was winning and that's all people really care about. Now that they're not winning as much these things start to effect fans and their enthusiasm. It's those things that can take a "fine" game and turn it into, "Holy hell we've got NDSU coming to town lets go to the game!" Other than the splash page on UNI's website I haven't seen anything about the upcoming game, and I pay attention.

There are a lot of things that are just falling through the cracks at UNI anymore - the people they have there are working their asses off to get their jobs done and to provide fans with everything they want, but there just isn't enough time in the day for the few people they have to get everything done. Oversights are happening, it cannot be overstated. It doesn't seem like the athletic department is running at an elite level, and I'm not slighting the people who are working there because they're doing the best they can with what they have. UNI needs a clear vision and they need more people to execute the vision.

Does any of this have to do with football? I think it does. Putting things out there to make people feel like the University is treating this like a big deal - because it is a big deal - makes people want to be a part of it and getting butts in seats makes a difference to the teams playing.

"Fine" isn't fine for UNI. It used to be better than fine.

[95UNIGRAD]

Lakes, you're in the wrong place if you wanted to come talk football or the upcoming game. This board has devolved into endless rants about parking situations, how our athletic department is run, fights between posters, our stagnant football program, and game start times.

I don't think you could find 5 people here (that are still here, anyway) that would be willing to do that with you. Maybe you guys should go FBS so you could not be so "bored", and you could find a rival whose fans care there.

[BCPanther]

Lakes, you're in the wrong place if you wanted to come talk football or the upcoming game. This board has devolved into endless rants about parking situations, how our athletic department is run, fights between posters, our stagnant football program, and game start times.

I don't think you could find 5 people here (that are still here, anyway) that would be willing to do that with you. Maybe you guys should go FBS so you could not be so "bored", and you could find a rival whose fans care there.

I'd be happy to talk football.

Like in the original post. I firmly believer we are faster and more athletic after watching them last weekend and the difference will be if we can scheme well enough to take advantage of that. I also think our Defensive Line is the only one in the league that is experienced and talented enough to at least keep it competitive up front.

This is also their first road game. The atmosphere is going to be terrible but its still not in Fargo.

There's a reason they've had the success they have had and it should be competitive. The key for both teams is to not have down weeks next week because this game is always a physical trainwreck.

[DomeIsHome]

I'll talk about football, but I talk about the same things literally every week so it's basically just copy and paste at this point.

The offense needs to have a gameplan (broken record).

Panther receivers need to continue to actually catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. Way too many dropped balls against ISUb and Iowa.

If Briley Moore is going to continue to be uncovered, keep feeding him the ball. Hell, even when he is covered, keep feeding him the ball. Can't forget about the TE's out there. Don't just run go's down the sidelines and heave it up there.

The offensive line needs to establish a run game to keep NDSU's offense (and UNI's defense) off the field. NDSU hasn't looked super quick the couple of times I've seen them this year. This is NDSU's first test away from home, pound their offense and maybe they'll get away from some of the things that they like to do.

I'd like to see Dunne play the whole game again.

[06panther10]

I might not part of the "misery crew" yet, but even I remember a time when "fine" wasn't acceptable for UNI. That's the point that the "misery crew" is trying to make. The football team is not performing to the standards that they themselves put out there. Yes there are 100,000 different factors going into it, but the fact is that UNI hasn't won a conference championship since 2011, and in the past three playoff appearances they have won more than one game only once (2015).

There are things that can be done to boost attendance at home events - promotions, giveaways, different social media campaigns, timing of kickoffs, gameday atmosphere, etc. - and those things are largely not getting done at UNI anymore. The little things are overlooked when a team is winning. From 2005ish-2012ish those things could be ignored because the team was winning and that's all people really care about. Now that they're not winning as much these things start to effect fans and their enthusiasm. It's those things that can take a "fine" game and turn it into, "Holy hell we've got NDSU coming to town lets go to the game!" Other than the splash page on UNI's website I haven't seen anything about the upcoming game, and I pay attention.

There are a lot of things that are just falling through the cracks at UNI anymore - the people they have there are working their asses off to get their jobs done and to provide fans with everything they want, but there just isn't enough time in the day for the few people they have to get everything done. Oversights are happening, it cannot be understated. It doesn't seem like the athletic department is running at an elite level, and I'm not slighting the people who are working there because they're doing the best they can with what they have. UNI needs a clear vision and they need more people to execute the vision.

Does any of this have to do with football? I think it does. Putting things out there to make people feel like the University is treating this like a big deal - because it is a big deal - makes people want to be a part of it and getting butts in seats makes a difference to the teams playing.

"Fine" isn't fine for UNI. It used to be better than fine.

This is a reasonable and correct take.

[7YrsOfCollegeDownTheDrain]

From a football standpoint i'd love to see UNI's run game be a little more diverse. We do so much RPO. I'd love to see us under center from time to time, use a fullback or moore or nissen as an H back. I really like the way the O Line has been playing. Really the did a nice job at Iowa which rotates 7 or 8 legit D linemen at you all day.

The WR's do need to more consistently catch the ball but i think they are finding the right mix of guys out there. McShane is young but looks great. I like Fossey a lot and it's good to see Rima getting back in the mix. I'll be interested to see Suni Lane progress on that side of the ball. He's got a great frame at 6'3.

From the second half of the Iowa game on i've liked what has happened in the passing game...using the TE's spreading the ball around. Lots of recievers involved.

Lastly the D is really starting to round into shape. They've been a little nicked up in the secondary and at linebacker but i think he's finding the right mix. Kinda like how things came together (in my opinion) last year when Brookin's moved to that nickle linebacker the personnel grouping jelled. My biggest gripe is i'd love to see us get more consistent pressure on the QB rushing only 4 - we need the other guys to get a nice push to take some of the attention off of Neal. As he gets a consistent double team.

[DomeIsHome]

^^^ 100% need to STOP running the option with Dunne. He's not going to run, everybody knows that.

[Panther'73]

It’s unfortunate you are blaming UNI VB. MVC rules require 24 hours between matches. A match Friday night at 7:00 means the match Saturday night can’t begin til 7:00... UNI doesn’t have a choice...

UNI could move that match back a half hour - even an hour.

UNI could still kick at 4 - we’ve done many (MANY) 4/7 weekends.

UNI/Harris chose volleyball over football. It’s that simple. We are kicking at 1 because of volleyball. Kick was moved to 1 because we “had to make sure” volleyball was able to be broadcast behind the ESPN+ paywall. That’s straight from David’s twitter account when the 1 PM kick was announced.

We moved our only premium game to the second least premium kick off time that exists (a head of only 11/12) and a time that is very unusual for our team simply to get a volleyball game on behind a paywall that 20 people will see. Giving free admission to the game with a football ticket also hurts the reasoning for showing it behind a paywall. At that point the majority of people who want to see it will be at the game. The rest will be people who won’t watch it at home or will be driving back to whatever out of CV town they live in.

Ill be the “misery crowd” and downer in this. Don’t care. I was called a downer and a misery group person back in 2009-2010 before I retired clenz for a while. Yet if you go look at what I was called that for at that time you’ll see people complaining about now. I guess I was just part of a group a head of the curve there



this was a gigantic missed opportunity to seek a premium game and create a premium environment.


What we we haven’t even mentioned yet is all the people that could/would go but won’t because of the incredible number of youth activities. There are thousands of kids playing youth soccer and football Saturday mornings and early afternoons. UNI wants to be the family destination yet 1PM kicks make it extremely difficult for families to actually go. I know more than a few families from my area that will not be going anymore because of the kick time. Simply can’t make it after kids events. [/QUOTE]

Maybe Bradley refused a later start time. They don’t have FB so they may not care to accommodate.

[7YrsOfCollegeDownTheDrain]

The option that UNI predominately runs with Eli is a Run Pass Option (RPO)...it's why we see some ineligible down field calls due to blocking schemes. I believe the scheme is set up to give the same "look" over and over but with many variations of where the ball can go. Run the jet motion, the rb give motion...wr's into routes and distribute in a variety of ways depending on what the D tries to take away. So it looks as though we're essentially running the same play over and over.

Occasionally Eli has the choice to pull it to run but not typically from what i see...we don't give the bailey/carnes read option run look very often anymore unless it's howell or wildcat with Marcus.

This of course is just my casual observation from watching our games and i could be off base too. This system is in my opinion is the reason farley covets a dual threat QB because having that read option look from your QB is another layer or +1 in the running game.

NDSU of course blends this look as a change of pace with Wentz before and now Stick as both are/were very capable runners.

[run&blade]

There will be no walk up. Just looked, they want $57 for aberate seat. Good god, wtf are the Lakers playing at halftime?

this game is about soaking the NDSU fans to help our budget.

Ndsu will I’ll have more fans and rub it in like crazy when they destroy UNI.

Nobody cares about Volleyball, you can get a season ticket for 50 and nobody does.

Start time stinks. Kills tailgating which is only thing fun about football the past decade.

Go go out of your way to compete against Iowa and ISU. Really? Let’s see pay $50+ to watch FCS or stay home and watch FBS for free. Gee let me think it over.

I hope next year they give Farley a ten year extension and have the band sit next to me. It’s about all that is left to destroy uNI football for me. Well I guess another QB that cannot throw as well as a 8th grader.

[run&blade]

why does a 1 pm start kill tailgating?

It hurts people’s routine and traditions, it will be colder, the grass will still be wet, not as much time. Go look around Saturday , it will be way down from normal ndsu game.

People actually pay pay to watch volleyball online? Lol, I would like to thank both of them for their support.

Just another poke poke in the eye for football. Go out of the way to crap on it.

How PC does it have to get? Can we get Dr Ford to throw out the first Volleyball?