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[UNICats]

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Perhaps they can talk Maryland-Eastern Shore into coming back for a second game??

[themick]

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Wasn't the Bradley series technically 1 for 1 with a somewhat neutral site?

[UNIAlum95]

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Perhaps they can talk Maryland-Eastern Shore into coming back for a second game??

Or Florida-Gulf-Coast-Atlantic.

[AmesPanther]

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Exactly, regaurdless of how good Iowa or ISU is having the series with them is VERY important to UNI. Financially, Recruiting, fan base

That's why Todd's argument makes sense. He isn't in this to do what makes sense for UNI or for that matter the state of Iowa. He is in this for his team and his school.

He doesn't control the Big 10 schedule. If he can drop 3 other games he doesn't control it makes sense. It improves his recruiting, his standing in the state, and probably even the financial for Iowa.

If this got some actual traction UNI might have to jump on board with Pollard and at least make money and keep playing these games in a neutral place like Wells Fargo.

[AmesPanther]

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Wasn't the Bradley series technically 1 for 1 with a somewhat neutral site?

Depends on your definition of neutral. For Bradley I'd call Des Moines more of a ISU home game than a neutral court. I think Bradley would have given ISU 2 games at Hilton anyway. ESPN picked up that first game and they knew they had the team to beat Mac with his 2 weeks of recruiting.

[Khan4Cats]

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This is the same argument we hear every year from either Iowa or Iowa State, whichever we get to play at home.

The reason is that whenever these home and home series were started, it wasn't real well planned out. Iowa or Iowa State alternate every year going to both of the other state schools while only getting Drake at home (not quite as heavy a fan-interest/visiting fan base).
I don't see this series stopping, especially while both BcS programs are down, but I could see some modification in the scheduling where Iowa/ISU would play at one site and the visitor would then host both UNI and Drake in the same year. Not sure how this would be worked out.

[AmesPanther]

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To me this one is different.

Morgan didn't really give a reason. He just didn't want to play UNI. He seemed to just not like UNI.

Pollard wanted some kind of tournament in Des Moines and his reasoning seemed to be financial.

Todd is saying he doesn't get to pick his Big 10 games so he wants to be able to pick the pre-season games he is supposed to be able to pick.

[Tango Charlie]

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We've beat this horse to death before.

It just ain't goin fly.

As Eldon told Timmy "this is a lot bigger than you and me".

[AmesPanther]

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It was a tough sell when Alford wanted the games and it was just Pollard pushing for a tournament.

If Iowa started pushing to end the series and ISU started pushing for playing a tournament I think it's safe to say at the very least we'd end up with a tournament. No one is going to jump in and say everyone playing every year in Des Moines isn't fair.

If the legislature really can force these games then playing is Des Moines accomplishes that and they'd have no reason to step in.

[jman2004]

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Wow. I was about to come on here after reading the first part of the article and say that Lickliter wasn't really attacking UNI as he was mentioning all the other three state schools, but then I read further and came to this . . .

"When I was at Butler, I would have loved to play (Indiana) and Purdue every year, but there was no way they were going to do it," Lickliter said. "And I think it's really interesting that Iowa and Iowa State play Drake and play Northern Iowa. And I know the people enjoy it."

I take that as a slap in the face. Like 2317, I find it interesting that those Indiana and Purdue games were probably pretty important to him and he fought like crazy to schedule them and now that he's at one of those "bigger" schools getting beat up by the "little" guys his tune changes. Hypocrite. He just fell a few notches in my book. And to think that I'll actually root for the Hawkeyes when they're not playing UNI.

It's just the way he worded it. Why does he suddenly find it amusing since he's a Hawkeye that Iowa and Iowa State have to play the likes of UNI and Drake? He sounds like a jacka$$, especially when he turns around and tries to claim "I have respect for them." Then shut your mouth and play us. Baby.

[Newsbreaker]

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It was a tough sell when Alford wanted the games and it was just Pollard pushing for a tournament.

If Iowa started pushing to end the series and ISU started pushing for playing a tournament I think it's safe to say at the very least we'd end up with a tournament. No one is going to jump in and say everyone playing every year in Des Moines isn't fair.

If the legislature really can force these games then playing is Des Moines accomplishes that and they'd have no reason to step in.

The Des Moines tournament is never going to happen. Unless you're going to play it twice (UNI v Iowa once, v Iowa State the next time) a year, it just won't happen, as the end result is that schools end up not playing each other.

[jman2004]

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If Iowa started pushing to end the series and ISU started pushing for playing a tournament I think it's safe to say at the very least we'd end up with a tournament.

I agree with you Ames. This actually kind of scares me. In the past, ISU has been the loudest from this school of thought. Iowa's chimed in from time to time but ISU has spoken the loudest.

If Lickliter is going to start chiming in (jacka$$) I'm afraid UNI and Drake would not be able to hold as much weight as Iowa and ISU and a tournament is something we might have to look forward to. To be honest, why not? Have it alternate between sites. It could be pretty exciting, especially since UNI could probably dominate it.

[jman2004]

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The Des Moines tournament is never going to happen. Unless you're going to play it twice (UNI v Iowa once, v Iowa State the next time) a year, it just won't happen, as the end result is that schools end up not playing each other.

It could be a beginning of the year, round robin sort of affair.

[AmesPanther]

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The Des Moines tournament is never going to happen. Unless you're going to play it twice (UNI v Iowa once, v Iowa State the next time) a year, it just won't happen, as the end result is that schools end up not playing each other.

You don't play a true tournament. You play 2 games per day. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Everyone plays everyone.

It would actually be pretty fun. I'd go to all 6 games and I hate watching games at Wells Fargo.

[Newsbreaker]

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So you're moving Iowa-Iowa State out of campus sites and to Des Moines? I don't think that's what Pollard proposed at all.