Lick This

[UNIAlum95]

Re: Lick This

You don't play a true tournament. You play 2 games per day. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Everyone plays everyone.

It would actually be pretty fun. I'd go to all 6 games and I hate watching games at Wells Fargo.

That's not what Pollard wants though. He only wants to play UNI and Drake at the Well. He wants the ISU/IA series to go on as a home/home series.

[ubuntuCAT]

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You don't play a true tournament. You play 2 games per day. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Everyone plays everyone.

It would actually be pretty fun. I'd go to all 6 games and I hate watching games at Wells Fargo.

While that does kinda sound like fun how would it ever work? How does the money get split up? Who runs this whole thing? I don't think UNI/Drake want to play each other again since they already play twice in conference play.

And I believe what Pollard actually proposed was keeping the Iowa/ISU series and having Iowa and ISU play both UNI and Drake in Des Moines. Which makes no sense.

[themick]

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What makes Iowa and Iowa St. so much better in basketball then UNI? I see where Lick is coming from the interest in Iowa basketball is at an all time high who needs games with local interest to draw fans. I'm saying this as UNI should never go on the road to play these bottom of their conference teams if they don't return the favor. Why not go play a good basketball school if thats the case?

[AmesPanther]

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So you're moving Iowa-Iowa State out of campus sites and to Des Moines? I don't think that's what Pollard proposed at all.

I'm 99% sure Pollard did propose games in Wells Fargo. He wanted 2 days 4 games. ISU and Iowa playing Drake and UNI, but not each other. If he saw his chance he'd probably give up the game with Iowa to make this thing work.

If UNI beats everyone this year I think the point will be driven home and we will see something on this in 08. If Drake gets a win over ISU, Iowa, or both watch out...

[AmesPanther]

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While that does kinda sound like fun how would it ever work? How does the money get split up? Who runs this whole thing? I don't think UNI/Drake want to play each other again since they already play twice in conference play.

And I believe what Pollard actually proposed was keeping the Iowa/ISU series and having Iowa and ISU play both UNI and Drake in Des Moines. Which makes no sense.

I have no idea. I'm just speculating. It's safe to say UNI and Drake would want equal splits for everyone. Iowa and ISU would probably want everyone to sell their own tickets and keep their own money or some kind of percentages.

Obviously Ticketmaster and Wells Fargo could run the whole thing and just send each school some money.

It could be a 3 day 5 game deal. Have ISU/Iowa play on Sunday afternoon and be the only game played. Drake/UNI don't play each other.

Luckily I don't have to figure any of this out. But I can imagine Pollard seeing Todd wanting out of the series and I'd bet he is working on his pitch right now.

[Newsbreaker]

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Like I said, if there is any real movement on this, expect to see it show up at the Statehouse. It's a chicken-you-know-what move by either Iowa or ISU, and it will be delt with accordingly.

I *could* live with a system where you play games on a 3 year rotation. Year 1 in Iowa City, Year 2 in CF, Year 3 in Des Moines or Cedar Rapids (with the schools splitting that pot evenly.)

[Mrs.Panther2317]

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Lickliter is taking a page out of the Tom Davis book of basketball. He wants to schedule non conference cupcakes before Big 10 play so they can start off 12-0 or close to it and then go .500 in the Big Ten and still make it to the big dance. Its exactly how Dr. Tom got them in most years!
I'm going to give Lickliter some credit for realizing that UNI and Drake are no longer cupcakes! Of course he'll keep playing ISU...at least until Mac can turn that program around and then he'll probably be wanting out of that game too!

[CincyPanther88]

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IT would never happen that we would just play down there all the time. UNI atheltic department would have nothing to do with that

That's a financially silly statement. We make more money of the games against Iowa and ISU than any other, and it's not really even close.

I understand the financial ramifications but does UNI just whore themselves out for a paycheck? Why doesn't Lickliter say that they don't want to play ISU in Ames?

It's more than the financial situation. It's about respect. If UNI would agree to something like that, they would lose a lot of respect from fans and the media. All of a sudden they aren't good enough to play home and home? You want to keep being called a mid-major, that's exactly the thing you do. You play BCS schools on the road and mid-majors and lower level schools at home.

If they didn't play Iowa every year, I could live with that. ISU too. Maybe, for example, play Iowa in Iowa City next year, ISU in CF the year after, Iowa in CF the next year and ISU in Ames the year after that and so on and so forth. That way each team gets a home game once every four years but they play each other every other year.

[Couppee]

Re: Just toe set the record straight

Alford did say that he wanted to get rid of the in-state games. He went so far as to say that it should not be expected to play all the DI schools in Iowa every year. He said look at Indiana, they don’t do it (and how can they when Indana has so many DI schools). He said that maybe they could play one every other year (not a bad idea from an Iowa standpoint).

To be fair, Todd L. was asked about it by the press, because this has/is being discussed at levels higher up than the Iowa coach. Iowa will never have anything to gain by beating Drake and will always have something to loose (unless they get really good and stay that way for many years), so that is a wasted home date, and a big loss of money.


As far as who will win the game UNI vs Iowa – UNI hands down will win this, Iowa is horrible this year, no talent, the players were not picked to fit in Todd L’s style. Iowa basketball will be down for 2-3 years.

[williebat]

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It makes sense though. If Iowa can drop that road game every other year with Drake and UNI they can pay to play some other MVC team. Playing a MVC at home every year makes more money overall and should reduce the chances of losing the game.

It's fine to play UNI, Butler, or whatever team when they aren't good. But if you are going to lose then you want to look around and at least make money losing to the team of your choosing at home.

Plus if Iowa lost to UNI and Drake it will hurt recruiting in state. If they lose to some other school it's not as big of a deal.

first off can I just tell coach licklater to go lick himself.

they would not bring in another MVC team. they would bring in someone like UPIU (sp?) or Sam Houston state, or Montana.

this is a bad way for the lick to start. what an ASSH***

If anyone should reevaluate this series it is UNI. (which thankfully we won't)
Beating Iowa does nothing for our RPI.


Here is a thought for LICK: recruit some better players and learn to coach offense not just defense and hopefully when UNI beats them in the future it will help our at large case.

[BCPanther]

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I think we should upgrade our schedule and think about dropping Iowa and Iowa State, its not even that much fun to beat them anymore...

[9YRPLAN]

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wow, UNI fans are sure sensitive. weird. if you think people dont want to play UNI and Drake every year because they are scared, you are nuts. iowa didnt want to play UNI even when they were winning every year. the round robin series continues out of respect for the fans and the smaller schools. Iowa and ISU could drop the series and not feel an impact whatsoever. UNI fans should be grateful that they have had the opportunity this long.

games in DSM would help everyone because of the way the RPI is set up. neutral wins count alot (1.0 compared to .667 I believe) more than home wins, but playing in DSM does not really negate your home court advantage. this is like illinois playing in the United Center or Duke playing in Greensboro. All the schools would benefit by beating a cupcake in DSM rather than at Carver a couple times per year, from an RPI standpoint. I think this would be good for weekday games where DSM fans would come downtown DSM instead of having to drive 1-2 hours.

[9YRPLAN]

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how in the hell anyone from drake or UNI took any disrespect from that article is simply trying to stir the pot. unbelievable. especially coming from someone as classy as Lickliter.

[williebat]

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games in DSM would help everyone because of the way the RPI is set up. neutral wins count alot (1.0 compared to .667 I believe) more than home wins, but playing in DSM does not really negate your home court advantage. .

first of all calm down.

second if we (we means UNI in case you are confused) really wanted to help our ( again UNI) RPI then here is a thought maybe LICK could recruit some better players and learn to coach offense and hopefully when UNI beats them in the future it will help our at large case.

third :how to you know he is a classy guy. So far he kind of sounds like an idiot to me?

[CR Panther]

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You want to make it to the tournament? Win at home and on the road against teams with good RPIs.

Lick-don't begin playing the "holier than thou" card just yet. You didn't like being left out at your previous job.....how does your opinion change now?

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