Viet

[jman2004]

Re: Viet

It is not comparable. It's ridiculous logic. Players get into a rhythm by running up and down the court and getting contested shots off. Not by tossing up a few threes during halftime.

And it's besides the point. I don't think Viet deserves much playing time, but of all games, I thought today could be warranted. I think after Montgomery tossed up his 4th prayer of the first half, that Viet should've been brought in. He shoots threes. That's what he does. If everyone else one the team was heaving them up why not give our senior three-point specialist a run at it, especially against a zone?

Yes, he got his shot in the second half, and I agree, it probably was too long, but it just came a little too late in my opinion. Probably wouldn't have matter, but could've been worth it.

[wloopanther]

Re: Viet

What? Are you trying to compare actual game flow and getting in a game rhythm to shooting in pregame warm-ups?

I think you are on to something here. Did you notice in the first half it seemed like we were subbing like it was a hockey game? It seemed like we made a line change every couple minutes or so.

There is no way ANYONE can get into a rhythm out there on the court only playing two minutes at a time. I think this is one of the main reasons we were down so much in the first half. The platooning seemed to stop in the second half and that is when we went on our big run.

[Kyle]

Re: Viet

I think you are on to something here. Did you notice in the first half it seemed like we were subbing like it was a hockey game? It seemed like we made a line change every couple minutes or so.

There is no way ANYONE can get into a rhythm out there on the court only playing two minutes at a time. I think this is one of the main reasons we were down so much in the first half. The platooning seemed to stop in the second half and that is when we went on our big run.

That's been the story of the season so far.

[NorthernIowaBacker]

Re: Viet

It's pretty comparable. I found I always played much better when I found a good rhythm in warm-ups. It doesn't guarantee success, but is enough to get things going. Other players on teams nationwide seem to be able to step in and make shots.

So what experience are you drawing from then? A storied high school career, college, or both?

[MeOW!]

Re: Viet

It seems to me that now since Brooks McKowen has graduated, Adam Viet has become our target of choice ... just an observation.

[BCPanther]

Re: Viet

I hope the Brooks complainers see how worthy of a point guard he was last season. I love Josten, but he'd be even more of a scoring threat if Kwadzo was healthy.

This team might be undefeated with Brooks McKowen...

[FerociousCat]

Re: Viet

This team might be undefeated with Brooks McKowen...

This team should be undefeated without Brooks McKowen...

[D Panther]

Re: Viet

We keep forgetting how young this teem is. Coleman, Josten, and Brown are the only players with significant playing time from last year. Past that it is all freshman and sophmores. There are nights they will look great and other nights soso, consistance will be an issue. It is the nature of the best. As for Viet, if his shot is not falling he is a liability on the floor so his minutes need to to be limited. The sad truth about Adam is he is a part time D III player and is overmatched at this level.

[jman2004]

Re: Viet

I hope the Brooks complainers see how worthy of a point guard he was last season. I love Josten, but he'd be even more of a scoring threat if Kwadzo was healthy.

I don't think this season opens me up to any new revelations about "Brooks". I think it shows me that I'd like to have a point guard healthy other than Josten so like you said, he could become a scoring threat, but I wish that point guard was Kwadzo, not Brooks.

A lot of the "Brooks complainers" last season were pretty warranted if you ask me, and I don't think this season would change any of their minds in the least. Sorry.

[jman2004]

Re: Viet

The sad truth about Adam is he is a part time D III player and is overmatched at this level.

That's a ridiculous statement. Talent comes in all different packages. Adam was not sought after because he was a slasher. He could shoot lights out from the outside in high school.

Maybe Adam's natural playing ability is not what many other DI programs would look for, but Adam was a nice grab out of high school and more importantly . . . has put in 5 years of practice and hard work for THIS PARTICULAR DIVISION ONE school. That makes him a "D I player" in my book.

He's done what he could for 5 years for this school and you come on here and call him a "D III" player? You're a moron.

[jman2004]

Re: Viet

As for Viet, if his shot is not falling he is a liability on the floor so his minutes need to to be limited.

And quotes like this are beginning to piss me off as well. Go take a look at Viet's playing time numbers this season. He's averaging what, 3 minutes a game, if that. I think his minutes have been rather limited.

Get someone new to complain about. Viet doesn't get the playing time to shoulder ANY criticism about ANYTHING regarding this basketball season. Pick on someone else people.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: Viet

That's a ridiculous statement. Talent comes in all different packages. Adam was sought after because he was a slasher. He could shoot lights out from the outside in high school.

Maybe Adam's natural playing ability is not what many other DI programs would look for, but Adam was a nice grab out of high school and more importantly . . . has put in 5 years of practice and hard work for THIS PARTICULAR DIVISION ONE school. That makes him a "D I player" in my book.

He's done what he could for 5 years for this school and you come on here and call him a "D III" player? You're a moron.

You are right on with this statement. Evaluating high school talent is sometimes a crapshoot. Our situation is particularly tough because we don't have much shot at the "obvious" multi-tool studs. We have to go for players that have some tools and hope to be able to develop them over their careers, not just get a one or two year commitment out of them like some places.

Viet's recruiting class is a good example, it included Brooks McKowen, Grant Stout, Viet, Jared Josten and, I believe, Vince Polakovic. Remember, Josten was also a preferred walk-on. Viet hasn't developed as some, but he has battled through numerous, not debilitating but certainly nagging, injuries to his back and legs. He plays a specific role for this team, and will still help us win games this year.

[MarshallTucker]

Re: Viet

Viet's recruiting class is a good example, it included Brooks McKowen, Grant Stout, Viet, Jared Josten and, I believe, Vince Polakovic.

Actually it was Atila Santos. Atila had some of the physical tools and athletic ability to be at this level but was lacking the full set. He's done fine for himself up at Minnesota State (D2) I believe.

This was a fine recruiting class for us. Viet's a great shooter who is in a bad slump. The DIII comment was laughable, it's not like it was a miracle the guy is a DI player. He was offered by Creighton and Drake in HS as well because he could shoot the 3 and over the course of his career here he's done just that. If I remember correctly, Viet was actually the first one to committ out of this class and had more than a little influence on Brooks and Josten (AAU teammates) and in turn helped a bit with Stout who played AAU against that trio regularly.

[clenz]

Re: Viet

I don't know what we are talking about. I'm averaging almost 18 a game with Viet off the bench in College Hoops 2K8. He is shooting about 40% from deep...haha

[MarshallTucker]

Re: Viet

I don't know what we are talking about. I'm averaging almost 18 a game with Viet off the bench in College Hoops 2K8. He is shooting about 40% from deep...haha

But the big question is....are you starting Coleman?