Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

[wloopanther]

Re: Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

I heard a rumor Tyler Hansborough isnt starting anymore this year at North Carolina because he had 2 fouls in the first half of a game this year.

To not start your best player is unheard of in the world of college basketball.

Anyone watch the Pitt vs Duke game last night? The beast of a freshman Pitt had was a great player with tremendous energy and he fouled out last night.

Do you think he started?

Oh yeah he had 15pts 20reb 3 blocks in 35 minutes of action and he STARTED.

[OhNewby]

Re: Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

START HIM! Which means somebody needs to be on the bench and I say Brown or possibly Dunham.

[Schack]

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Here's a quote from the UMKC message board about last Weds. game with regard to Eric Coleman:

"Same for Northern Iowa, they are better than WSU, but not as good as they have been in the past. I can only imagine what would have happened had Jacobson played Coleman more than he did."

That's perhaps a more unbiased view that indicates Eric deserves at least more PT.

[Kyle]

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START HIM! Which means somebody needs to be on the bench and I say Brown or possibly Dunham.

Three bigs on the floor at the same time?!?

As fun as that might be, I don't think we will ever see it.

[Kyle]

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22 minutes is also the average. He didn't play much against Wartburg, NIU, or Iowa (sick) and when we have only played 10 games, three is pretty significant.

He will end up averaging around 30 when it is all said and done. Starting or not...

I agree. If you look at our biggest non conference game this year, UMASS, he played 30 min.

I still think he should start...and play about 31 min per game.

[UNI MadCat]

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Huh . . . now I'm scratching my head. I thought Coleman wasn't only okay with this, but that part of it was his idea. From the sound of those quotes from both sides, doesn't sound like it's his idea at all, or that he necessarily likes it.

I'm standing by my opinion that it's a ridiculous coaching move. I think it's stupid.

Agree, 100%!! (What a difference a year makes, huh J?)

That article has me pretty fired up over this. Jake offers no real rationale for why he's doing it and at the same time we get a glimpse of how EC really feels about it.

If you feel you get more "quality" out of him with 6 fewer minutes, fine. But how about still start him and then work in bigger breaks? I just think the not-starting thing adds a ridiculous psychological element that adds nothing to the team and could actually hurt it. Don't you figure its crossed JE's mind that, "hey, maybe when I'm a senior Jake will bring in somebody and start them over me." We just dont need guys to worry about unnecessary things.

It seems gimmicky, like we've become the Cubs of the 60s ("College of Coaches," "Athletic Directors," etc.).

[FuturePanther09]

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START ERIC!!

thats my opionon. If he gets into foul trouble, take him out for a little bit. Is it really that difficult? Don't just assume that he's going to just be stacking up fouls in the first couple minutes. If he does, put him on the bench, but really, give him a chance. He's one of the best players in the valley, and you're not going to start him?? Come on...

[FuturePanther09]

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Theres coaches out there that would love to have EC on their starting line up....

apparently coach Jake is taking that for granted!! PLAY 'EM JAKE!

[jman2004]

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I just think the not-starting thing adds a ridiculous psychological element that adds nothing to the team and could actually hurt it. Don't you figure its crossed JE's mind that, "hey, maybe when I'm a senior Jake will bring in somebody and start them over me." We just dont need guys to worry about unnecessary things.

MadCat, you're the man. Agree wholeheartedly. I didn't really know much about the situation but that article gives snippets. You're right, Jake doesn't explain himself AT ALL.

It is gimmicky, it is ridiculous, and it's absolutely 100% UNNECESSARY. That's the point of all this. It's unnecessary.

I too have become a little upset about the whole ordeal in the last day or so (since it's been on my mind).

[Kyle]

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After watching todays game (Nevada) I only have one word for Coleman not starting...DISGUSTING.

Once, just once I want to see our five best players on the floor at the same time. After today, here is my starting lineup:

PG-Josten
SG-Brown
SG-Dunham (Reed when he is 100% healthy)
PF-Koch
C-Coleman

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

yes, over Koch. Get him and Egleseder in there. Tonight was the first time we saw EC dish to JE off the drive. I've been calling for it all year.

[OhNewby]

Re: Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

yes, over Koch. Get him and Egleseder in there. Tonight was the first time we saw EC dish to JE off the drive. I've been calling for it all year.

No doubt EC should start. Tough call Koch or Jordan...How about ALL THREE. Did anyone else notice Koch's defense against Nevada's guard late in the game, I really think he could play the 3 position, it's not like Dunham is doing much right now. How does this look?

PG-Josten
SG-Brown
SF-Koch
PF-Coleman
C-Jordan

[jman2004]

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At this point in time, I like Koch over Jordan any day of the week.

[blien]

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YES
Start him.He creates for others also when D's collapse, he makes unbelieveable shots. With Valley play coming now-he needs to start.Maybe he does foul more often but..we cant seem to put a team away and always have to fight back. he could be a 15pt ,12rebound guy, but is at 11, 10reb. now or so..

[Back2BackCats]

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Should Eric be starting, yes but is he getting his minutes I think he is.

Northern Illinois – 14 minutes, 1 of 3 games in three days, we win by 30 no reason for him to play 30 minutes.

South Dakota State – 12 minutes, foul trouble

Wartburg – 15 minutes, 50 point win didn’t really need him.

Throw out those 3 games and he is averaging 27.2 minutes a game there is no doubt this will go up once we get into the MVC.

Last year we criticized Jake for not getting Koch and Egs any minutes and wearing out EC, Brooks and Grant, this year he’s not getting EC enough minutes. I think we need to be more concerned about why we play so deliberate for the first 12-14 minutes of the half and then become aggressive for the last 6-8 minutes. If we played the whole half like that last few minutes we’d be undefeated right now. Yesterday we scored 11 in he first 14 minutes of the first half and 12 in the first 13 minutes of the second half. When was the last game we had a breakaway layup or a big dunk?

I was watching the news this morning and the Sports guy said the UNI Mens BB team was “Like a box of Chocolates” you don’t know what your going to get when they step on the floor.