Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

[jman2004]

Re: Do YOU want Eric Coleman to start???

But one of those three was a loss. It doesn't really matter. 27 minutes a game is still too low.

We had a big dunk against Wartburg. Didn't Kerwin lob it up to Eric? There was another alley-oop this season as well from Kerwin to Coleman, both were BIG dunks.

See Jordan's dunk attempt get swatted yesterday?

[Jet]

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YES. As long as its Eric and Jordan starting and bringing Adam K. off the bench.

[Back2BackCats]

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All I'm saying is that last year EC was averaging 27.2 minutes a game in the 11 games before break and late in the year everyone was complaining that EC, Grant, & Brooks had played too many minutes and were worn out at the end of the year while we didn't get Adam & Egs enough minutes.

[LongBall42]

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I will say this again. It's not about who starts, but who finishes. Starting is overrated, finishing is underrated. Coleman should have done himself a favor and got in better shape, he looked pretty winded in the game I saw on Saturday.

[der6942]

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I could care less if he starts or not, but is it just me or is the Combo of Coleman and jordan make the most sense for the 4 & 5 spots..

All season I have only seen a few times where these two have been in together. I think we need to get these two in at the same time, playing together, seeing what their two offensive skills can bring to the team. One thing Jordan needs, is to be pumped up and taught how to be a bruiser, wouldnt playing with coleman be the best thing for him? This team STRUGGLES to score points, Koch is not an offensive threat at all

[UNIPNTHR]

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PG-Josten
SG-Brown
SF-Koch
PF-Coleman
C-Jordan

Kerwin should start over Brown.

[clenz]

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You're right it is about who finishes and not who starts, but why would you not your best player, who could be the best player in the conference. Get him confidence early in the game rather than they hype during pre game than sitting and cooling off for 5-10 minutes before he gets in

[D Panther]

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I think the thing that keeps getting overlooked on this discussion is that what is the impact on Jordan and Koch. Stating them has an impact on their play. They both have been more agressive, maybe if one or both were coming off the bench like last year they would not be as effective. The other thing is that EC now can watch the other teams player and can exploit immediately. Again it is who finishes and who is on the floor at crunch time that is the most important.

[clenz]

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And with the psychology thing, what do you think it does to see EC sitting on the bench the first 5 minutes of the game. That is a huge boost for them. They know they can be much more agressive in the post and establish them selves early in the game. EC starting isn't a good thing no matter how you look at it

[JR_01]

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It is difficult to second guess an entire team of coaches. However, psychologically find me one athlete who doesn't want to start. Although some think it is good for the team I do not. Psychologically I think the entire team has been affected. A 3 year starter now the 6th man is radical.

[GonzoCat]

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EC starting isn't a good thing no matter how you look at it

Really? No matter how you look at it?

How many of the other 340 D1 teams don't start their best player? Are we really on to something here? Have we started a trend that will revolutionize college bb? Will it sweep the nation so that by next year maybe 100-150 of those other teams will not start their best player and within 3-4 years almost no team will?

We're not a very good team this year. Due to circumstances beyond control we have no point guard. For reasons that defy explaination we have no shooters, which has been the norm and defied explaination for several years now. About one out of every 6 games we will shoot well from outside and win going away. The rest of the games we will be in and always have a chance to win because of our defense.

Starting EC might not make us any better, but there is no real reason to believe it would make us any worse. He's a senior and our best player and he deserves to start.

[jman2004]

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Gonzo, I think you misread clenz. I think your post agrees with what he's been saying . . .

. . . maybe I misread you though.

Either way, I agree with you. The whole fiasco is STUPID. No one, no one can name me a legitimate reason to NOT start him after he's done so for 3 seasons. It's stupid. That's all it really is. And I'm sorry, but Jacobson looks kind of dumb because of it.

[clenz]

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Sorry i ment to put EC not starting doesn't make any sense. My fault on that.

[GonzoCat]

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I think you're right. I went back and read clenz prior post and he seems to be in agreement. The line I quoted though says the opposite, I think he may have left out the word "not" in that sentence inadvertently or used "isn't" when he meant "is", which would avoid the dreaded double negative.

I agree with people that is shouldn't be that big of a deal, as long as EC gets his minutes, but 1) we don't know what effect it's having on him mentally and 2) he hasn't been getting his minutes, he's averaging 6 less per game compared to last year. Some people are so against saying anything that could sound negative about Jake that they are twisting this situation around and reaching for justification to make it sound like a genius move. There's no evidence that it is such or even has had any positive benefit that I can see.

I hope I get to see EC start for the Iowa Energy next year.

[jman2004]

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I agree with people that is shouldn't be that big of a deal, as long as EC gets his minutes, but 1) we don't know what effect it's having on him mentally and 2) he hasn't been getting his minutes, he's averaging 6 less per game compared to last year. Some people are so against saying anything that could sound negative about Jake that they are twisting this situation around and reaching for justification to make it sound like a genius move. There's no evidence that it is such or even has had any positive benefit that I can see.

Exactly! Well said!

And in the midst of all this crap, we're 7-3 when we very easily should be 9-1 or at worst 8-2. AND, for 3 games now, we've had a somewhat healthy Reed sitting on the bench because Jacobson can't "get him into the flow of the offense." Duh.

I can't say I've been terribly blown away by anything Jacobson has done while at the helm, and this decision just takes the cake. It's dumb. He was left with some great big crumbs and he's decided to kind of brush them off the table.

The Valley is supposed to be down this year. We've got great young players and one of the best in the league in Coleman. If he can't put a winning product on the court after this season, I'm going to be very concerned.

The whole benefit of choosing a coach within your own system is an easy transition period. I don't think we've had an easy transition period. We've gotten worse in the wins column and our offense looks more confused than ever. And I know this is only his second season, but come on, this wasn't supposed to be like this. We've got the talent to win ballgames, so when we're not winning games we should, why can't we point the finger at the coach, no matter how young or inexperienced his coaching career is?