UNI v. Creighton

[run&blade]

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How long is the coaches contract? I wouldn't think it could be much longer then 4 years.

I assume he will get tow more years. Of course by then I will be able to walk up at tipoff and sit behind the bench.

[jman2004]

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I dont know about other people but I'm not really that disappointed in this one. Based on what we saw the past 3 games, I think it would be tough to not have thought an outcome like this was possible.

I'm not either. To be honest, I thought we played very well in the first half, despite the turnovers. Kerwin did NOT have a good game and he'd probably be the first to tell you. His head was not in this one at all.

But in all fairness, we did get a hand in some of those guys' faces, it's just that teams hit shots when they face us. At one point the score was 20-13 in favor Creighton and they hadn't missed a shot. We're busting our butts on defense, the other team is just hitting their shots.

I like Haak so much that I'd start him this weekend and give Jared a break at the point. Work on Haak ALL WEEK and get him ready for this weekend. I still feel Eric needs to start because he's too much of a force on the scoring end and he's one of the few that can grab a board, but I won't get into the other stuff. He dropped a few notches in my book after this weekend . . .

Travis Brown played well I thought. I'm not a Travis hater. I like the guy's play. Sure he has some nights where he's just flat out broke, but for the most part, I'm beginning to want his Junior experience out there much more than I want Kerwin's Freshman experience out there.

I think we're overusing Kerwin. He doesn't do a whole lot of bad (except for last night) but he doesn't really stand out at all either. I'd rather see Montgomery (not necessarily high on him at this point either but he stands out more than Kerwin).

Switch it up again next game and bring Koch in off the bench.

C - Jordan
F - Eric
G - Travis
G - Jared
G - Brian Haak

There's my starting five and I'm sticking to it.

[clenz]

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I actually like that starting 5. But we all know Jordan and Eric don't play well together, at least that is what we are led to believe

[Khan4Cats]

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I'm still torn on Eglseder, Coleman and Koch because they each bring different elements. Koch was the only player who was regularly looking to attack the basket from the outside last night, unfortunately he would do it and then pass most of the time. He got picked a couple times when he was matched against a guard, but he was taking every post they put on him. Not sure he could play the three because of that.

Eglseder seems to play better as a starter, but he did play well last night. Still has issues grabbing rebounds but he was battling at least and managed to tip a couple to teammates or the other team didn't just grab them.

Coleman can play with passion better than anyone. But his pendulum swings the other way just as much and his head leaves the game at hand too often. The only "advantage" I see with starting him is that he wins the opening tip. Of course all that really does is let the other team get the ball to start the second half after building a first half lead.

I like the following positional uses:

C: Coleman and Eglseder
F: Koch and Coleman with O'Rear to spell them.
3: Brown and Reed, Viet when he's healthy
2: Josten and Montgomery (Jon has been streaky on offense, but he has been fairly steady on defense and always plays with energy on that end)
PG: Haak and Dunham. Probably start Dunham, but after last night Haak is quickly moving up the chart for PT.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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Some interesting quotes from the Register:

“I haven’t seen a pattern yet,” coach Ben Jacobson said, “in terms of what we’ve done.”

I've seen a pattern: LOSING.

[UnderParPanther]

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Did anyone else pay attention to Reed while he was on the bench last night? He looks very annoyed at not playing as whenever a sub at guard went in he just shook his head in disappointment. I dont know how he only played 3 minutes last night after playing much more againt Bradley. He's not going to get back into the flow of the game and in basketball shape without PT.

[OhNewby]

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Did anyone else pay attention to Reed while he was on the bench last night? He looks very annoyed at not playing as whenever a sub at guard went in he just shook his head in disappointment. I dont know how he only played 3 minutes last night after playing much more againt Bradley. He's not going to get back into the flow of the game and in basketball shape without PT.

Based on how Reed played, and even though our guard play has been poor, here are the following guards that he is behind: JJ, Brown, Viet, Montgomery, Dunham and Haak.

[bendbutdontbreak]

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coach jake really annoyed me last night...it seems like he really plays favorites alot when at the end of the game josten launched a fade from the left side of the floor without passing while heavenly gaurded jake didnt even tell him that it was a bad shot...josten 2-10 and brown took 14 shots. coleman and jordan only took 12 shots combined...jordan finally played with some passion and coleman was his normal self...why doesnt jake call timeout and say GET THE BALL INSIDE coleman and jordan were ready to dominate that game and the gaurds didnt let them

[jman2004]

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Did anyone else pay attention to Reed while he was on the bench last night? He looks very annoyed at not playing as whenever a sub at guard went in he just shook his head in disappointment. I dont know how he only played 3 minutes last night after playing much more againt Bradley. He's not going to get back into the flow of the game and in basketball shape without PT.

Reed was pathetic and TOTALLY confused on the defensive end of the court.

When Montgomery came back in with Reed and Josten I saw Jake and Jared both point to a wing and talk with Carlton. His position at the top of the zone was obviously going to change to a wing or corner.

First trip down the court he wandered around as if we were in man to man when we werent' and the next trip down he wasn't in his corner and his man knocked down a three. I saw Jake stomp his foot and pull him out immediately.

I don't know about Reed. I don't think that particular situation warrants sitting a guy with his talent for the rest of the game, but something has to give. How long are we going to be saying "His shot has to fall sometime . . ." It's even starting to affect his play, you can tell. A few times he would dribble and get his defender back on his heels, only to back off and not penetrate when he easily could have.

I think we all need to see more out of him before we start giving him 20 minutes a game. I feel bad for him and his struggles and playing time, but I don't know what he expects from his play.

[dan_beeding]

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coach jake really annoyed me last night...it seems like he really plays favorites alot when at the end of the game josten launched a fade from the left side of the floor without passing while heavenly gaurded jake didnt even tell him that it was a bad shot...josten 2-10 and brown took 14 shots. coleman and jordan only took 12 shots combined...jordan finally played with some passion and coleman was his normal self...why doesnt jake call timeout and say GET THE BALL INSIDE coleman and jordan were ready to dominate that game and the gaurds didnt let them

Zone defense= tough to get it down low to big men.

[bendbutdontbreak]

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in response to the post about being hard to get inside on zone...they did an excellent job in the first half they put a big behind the zone and allowed the defense to collapse and draw double teams...o'rear was getting double teamed while coleman stood in the middle of the paint waiting for a pass after the double team. Also, there were plenty of times i saw jordan and coleman have good position and were not given the ball then they would be forced to post up 15 feet from the basket so the gaurds would give them the ball

[BCPanther]

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Calling for Jake's head a year and a half in is the most asinine thing that I have ever read...

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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Calling for Jake's head a year and a half in is the most asinine thing that I have ever read...

You're right...let's wait until the program is a TOTAL embarrassment to call for his head...

In all seriousness though, you're probably right in saying it is premature to be starting a firecoachjake.com website. BUT, that being said, a third straight decline NEXT YEAR would likely be the catalyst for change. Weaver only got three years, didn't he?

[BCPanther]

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Weaver got four years, fwiw...


And here is my caution if we were to look at pushing Jake out the door (hypothetically), Can we do any better than another young assistant?? With what we pay, it's not like we can go out and get a top line low major coach like Wichita was able to with Gregg Marshall...

[Panther-Sheik]

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Reed going 0 - 1 or 0 - 2 should not be a bad shooting night...it should be a sign that he will be ready to hit the next 3 of 4. How can a guy "pull out of it" if he gets pulled after every miss? At this point, I would like to see him actually get about 20 minutes to see if he can pull out of it. And, as for defense, it is all about attitude and flow. I was going nuts watching their guys slap the frickin' floor every 5 minutes on the defensive end. You have to be in the flow and develop an attitude on defense. Riding the pine doesn't breed attitude, it breeds confusion and tenativeness on both ends of the court. Haak played well last night because he played more than 1:30. Let a mistake be made, discuss it and teach on the next free throw or dead ball, but leave the guy in to make the correction. Either that, or pull him, put him on the end of the bench and frustrate him...oh, then call on him again 10 minutes later and expect him to be immediately in the flow. I think this is a young coach with an itchy trigger finger letting his frustration infiltrate the players. That is my hope for Jake, and I think he will understand this and develop patience and a better "teaching" style during games over the years. Again, this is at least my hope.