UNI v. Creighton

[Matt Trump]

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With the way coleman was playing tonight I do not understand that like 6 min stretch he sat in the 2nd half. (from like 16 min mark to 10 min mark) And it was right after that dunk where he jammed over like 3 defenders I really thought that was gonna spark a big run

Senior leader was loafing on defense watching people go by him for easy buckets as he stood there. Also, watched loose balls get picked up by the other team only to stand and watch them reset their offense and get more easy buckets.

Maybe there are more reasons that senior leader doesn't get the minutes a lot of people think he should.

[Matt Trump]

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I wonder what this team would have looked like if Culliver was around to handle the point with JJ at the two? Hopefully, next year with KA back and Moran coming in, the point will no longer be a weak spot.

It would look a lot different and its too bad the team has no PG right now.

[dan_beeding]

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A few things from the front row:
1. For as much as I love the energy that Coleman brings, when I saw him walk down the court after turning the ball over, my respect for him dropped a bit. Either he's tired (from less minutes than he was getting when he was a frosh-junior), or he's getting complacent. Either way, that was ridiculous.
2. I hate the empty seats as much as anybody, but at a school that hasn't exactly established itself as a power in basketball (outside of the success of the past 4-5 years), winning=attendance. I think we saw that with football.
3. Coleman starting since all the screaming for him to be out there during intros = 0-2. Take that as you will.
4. I was never a huge Jake supporter, I guess it was the Mac hangover. But tonight a while after the game, I was down in the tunnel with a friend, and Jake came out of the locker room just ahead of us. He turned around and said hey to us, and I asked him how he was. He gave a pretty dejected "about as well as you guys." I told him that we were still behind him, and to keep plugging, we knew the team could come together by March (hopefully sooner). My point? I guess the way I see it, the guy knows nobody is happy with this season. Does that equal wins? No. But I think we are seeing small adjustments from him that we didn't see last year (see: inbound lob play ran a few times against Bradley, a few full-court presses from us the past couple of games, Coleman starting). He's trying to fix whatever it is in this program that's broken, but a lot of it boils down to experience at the 1. KA would have 1. taken pressure off of Josten of being the soul catalyst of the offense, 2. freed up Josten to get off screens for shots, 3. kept Jostens' minutes down so his legs are fresher at the end of the game.
I think of all the people out there who are frustrated, the two people who are feeling the worst about this season are Jake and RH. Jake for obvious reasons, he loves this team, runs the team, and surely feels as though he is a big part of the skid that we're on. RH because he made the hire.
It's tough to stay away from the ledge, especially in the middle of a losing streak like this when attendance is down, not much to cheer for, and (for me at least) a bit of dejection carrying over from the Delaware loss a month ago. I just hope this doesn't become like Hawkeyereport with everybody at everybody's neck and deciding who their coaching candidate is.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

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I don't think the athletic dept is in financial position to embark on another all-out coaching search. It seemed partly the reason that Jake was so quickly hired in the first place. At the time, it maintained continuity, kept recruits in house, and was extremely inexpensive. UNI can't affort to run coaches after 3. Not unless you wanna fork over the dough to make the change.

From the sounds of things, if we time it right, Clone fans may force Mac out at about the same time our program hits rock bottom...We can welcome him back with open arms!!!

[clenz]

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Take Coleman starting 0-2 for what it's worth? OK, I bet we would be 0-2 without him starting too. It's pretty sweet that he can start put up the same numbers, get the same minutes, and not pick up fouls, while having JE put the same numbers up as well. Who the hell would have thought?

[JCPanthers]

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3. Coleman starting since all the screaming for him to be out there during intros = 0-2. Take that as you will.

We have won the last two opening tips.

[unigriff]

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how is it every game it seems we make a run to get back into momentum shifting distance and suddenly are murdered with a 3 EVERY TIME! I knew it was pretty much over when we got it to 4 the final time and then they hit that darn 3. I shoulda left then but i just couldnt grasp how that always happens.

[wahawk]

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I'm with Trump on this one. I've never posted anything about it before, but I've never been a fan of Coleman because he plays really lazy defense. He better score at least as much as he does for as many points as he gives up, especially if the other team's 4 man can shoot from outside or if they use Coleman's man to screen on the outside.

[SteinPizza]

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Does that equal wins? No. But I think we are seeing small adjustments from him that we didn't see last year (see: inbound lob play ran a few times against Bradley, a few full-court presses from us the past couple of games, Coleman starting). He's trying to fix whatever it is in this program that's broken, but a lot of it boils down to experience at the 1. KA would have 1. taken pressure off of Josten of being the soul catalyst of the offense, 2. freed up Josten to get off screens for shots, 3. kept Jostens' minutes down so his legs are fresher at the end of the game.

For all the negativity lately, Dan does a nice job with a pretty balanced post. I agree, I'm liking the press and trapping D from us lately. To my memory, Mac never ran anything like that. I also agree that the losses of KA and Culliver are huge this year. Don't forget Stephen Jones either, who was proabably a better player than Haak and could've given JJ more rest in every game we've played this year. For those who expected our recruiting class to play like Chris Weber, Juwan Howard, etc., be a little realistic and remember how young this team is with the exception of JJ, EC, and Travis.

On the downside, we got out-rebounded again, and let CU get some wide open looks from 3. In my amatuer opinion, that's something Jake should be able to adjust his scheme to remedy, but for whatever reason hasn't. Calling for a coaching change, or even mulling it, is unrealistic, uncalled for, and way too naive given the circumstances above.

[Panther_Fan]

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Don't forget Stephen Jones either, who was proabably a better player than Haak and could've given JJ more rest in every game we've played this year. .

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Are you serious?? Stephen Jones was not a pt guard and after watching the game tonight I have a hard time agreeing that he was probably a better player than Haak. Not trying to be brash, just saying!

[jman2004]

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Senior leader was loafing on defense watching people go by him for easy buckets as he stood there. Also, watched loose balls get picked up by the other team only to stand and watch them reset their offense and get more easy buckets.

Maybe there are more reasons that senior leader doesn't get the minutes a lot of people think he should.

I'm not big time. I'm really not. But I did happen to get a little inside information this weekend from people VERY close to the situation and lets just say, my tone has changed very much regarding the Eric Coleman situation. Tonights game was an eye opener for me. Kind of like finding out Santa wasn't real.

Coleman flat out goes Randy Moss on us and takes about 50% of defensive plays off. It's sad but true. Coaches know this. Players know this. I'm done complaining about his minutes. I'm done complaining about his starting. I'm onto complaining about how sad it is that a player can have as much talent as him yet play half-ass the way he did tonight. I'm willing to bet that tonight wasn't the only night either. After this weekend and talking with who I did and learning what I did, tonight's game was watched in a totally different light.

Let's chalk it up to rebuilding. Maybe we can get hot and win a few we're not supposed to. But I really don't see much else happening this season.

I have faith that our young players learn and grow by naturally just being out on the court. But I hope and pray that Coach Jake does as well.

Did anyone see the shot chart ESPN showed after halftime and all our points in the paint? So what do we do after halftime? Travis Brown bricks a three and so does Kerwin Dunham all the while ZERO passes go into the post.

That's on Jake.

[J-Pak]

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Keep your chins up, guys. Jake is young and will learn. Gottlieb made an excellent point when he said that Altman's 14 years of experience in The Valley allow him to be a calm influence during games and patient teacher with his young players. That said, Dana does lay down the law with playing minutes (witness Chad Millard who was loafing but since has owned up to it and Dana's threats of cutting P's minutes when he was losing his composure 2 weeks ago, which led to a turnaround). I guess it's like parenting... let em know you love em and are proud of them, but temper that with "tough love" when necessary.

[re17282]

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I wish we could find an assistant coach who would grab Jake and tell him, hey it looks like we are going into one of our 8 minutes without a field goal stretches, but tell him that about 1 and a half minutes into it.

[in_the_stands]

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Some interesting quotes from the Register:

“I haven’t seen a pattern yet,” coach Ben Jacobson said, “in terms of what we’ve done.”

“We’re getting out there and contesting shots,” said Coleman, who finished with 12 points and 12 rebounds. “Teams are just hitting them.”

[clenz]

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Some positives that came from this game in my eyes

Haak, Maybe Brown starting shooting a little better, JE actually looked pissed off during the game and looked like he wanted to dunk it on the one time he was fouled, and well um, we learned JJ HAS to shoot more but we all know he won't because I don't think Jake wants the PG to shoot.