ISU Game Thread

[Purrrrrfect]

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p.s. i still hate Higgins

[Khan4Cats]

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I'm not willing to put the blame for this one all on Jake. He didn't miss the three-pointers, he didn't miss the lay-ups (about 4 in the first half alone). We were getting dribble drive for a while, then we stopped even trying. We drove and got foul calls in the first half, second half, we backed off. We should have had a 8-10 point lead at half between some of the easy misses in close and 4 missed FT's. Second half and OT we only took 5 FT's.

I would like to see us use Jordan a little more in spurts, even if it means learning to play some zone on defense if there isn't a good match-up for him. I just think he gives us something offensively down low. Of course the bumps and shoves weren't being called down low, and he wasn't trying to fight through them.

[Panther Cat]

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Jordan wasn't in because he couldn't guard anyone. Brackins scored on pretty much everyone, but Koch and O'Rear made him work a little. There were back to back plays were Brackins did an up and under and Jordan hadn't moved yet. I like Jordan a lot and I think his defense is a lot better than he showed last night, but he didn't do himself any favors with his performance. You can debate giving up defense for offense all day but with the style we play you have to be able to defend.

Our perimeter defense was pretty good last night, so I was happy about that improvement. We probably could have doubled Brackins more, but every time we did he spun away from it and got a basket. He's a heck of a player. Knock down a few shots and we probably win this game.

Ali's biggest problem is his shot selection, he took probably about 5 or so bad shots. I love his shot but he's got to start consistently knocking a few down soon.

[Khan4Cats]

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It was awfully hard to double Brackins because Iowa State was basically just running Garrett and Brackins pick and roll actions down the stretch. The other 3 players stayed well out on the perimeter and our guards weren't able to help down low.

[BtownPantherfan]

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I haven't read the whole thread, just this last page, so sorry if I'm repeated a lot of people, but obviously I'm disappointed with the outcome. If we just could've had a third consistent offensive threat, I believe we could've pulled the game out, whether it was Johnny Moran, Jordan Egelseder, or someone else, but Kwazdo and Adam did their jobs offensively. I agree with the point on doubling Brackins, it seemed to work late in the game when we got a couple steals off of it, and ISU was barely making anyting from 3, and that included open looks.

I mentioned this in another thread, but Egelseder missed a box out multiple times in the first half, that's why Jake sat him for the majority of the second half. I do agree with those who he should get involved in offensive sets after timeouts, because our offense was painfully stagnate tonight.

I'm more of an opptimist, so sorry if I seem like I'm looking ahead, because I'm not and I plan on attending a lot of UNI games this year as a student, but I'm really excited about the future of this team, especially next year. Kwazdo and Adam Koch have obviously improved and add to that Johnny Moran who made three amazing plays in the game, and hopefully continued improvement from Jordan, Lucas O'Rear, and Dunham. Hopefully we can have a healthy Carlton Reed too, but I don't know I how realistic that is. Anyway, I think that's a team that can compete for an MVC title next year. I think we'll have a very similar year to the last two years, but will see a big improvment next year. Hopefully that doesn't rub people the wrong, but it's just my opinoin.

[williebat]

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We were getting dribble drive for a while, then we stopped even trying. We drove and got foul calls in the first half, second half, we backed off. .

I thought the same thing. A little better than last year when we never even drove to the hoop. But why in the world did we resort back to the pass around the perimeter and chuck up a three method? Is this an intentional plan or bad habits what? How did the new guys even know our bad habits from last year.

I thought we looked good the first half. But last years game plan reared its ugly head in the second half. Anyone know why?

[coachdon]

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Btown, I agree the talent should be there next year but with this coaching staff, no title is in sight. If Jordan isn't good at blocking out after 3 years in the program who's fault is that?

[BCPanther]

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Its Jordan's fault. You guys act like Jake and the staff just roll the ball out there and say 'go for it'. That staff works damn hard in practice, very hands on, very disciplined.

All the staff can do is teach technique, they can't actually go out and do it come game time.

He got owned by Alex Freaking Thompson last night, he didn't deserve to play in the second half...

[Panther789]

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Its Jordan's fault. You guys act like Jake and the staff just roll the ball out there and say 'go for it'. That staff works damn hard in practice, very hands on, very disciplined.

All the staff can do is teach technique, they can't actually go out and do it come game time.

He got owned by Alex Freaking Thompson last night, he didn't deserve to play in the second half...

Already?

It was at least January before you threw Coleman under the bus last year.

[BtownPantherfan]

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Btown, I agree the talent should be there next year but with this coaching staff, no title is in sight. If Jordan isn't good at blocking out after 3 years in the program who's fault is that?

Blame goes to both the coaching staff and Jordan. If they aren't teaching that, then yes the blame should be on them, but if Jordan shows no motivation to do it, then that's on him, and he won't play, as he did for the majority of the second half. Maybe Jordan does know how to box out,and it was just an off-night (as it was for a lot of people), but if he still hasn't learned how to box out, then it's probably on EVERY coach he's ever had, including the UNI staff, and also on Jordan himself.

[panthers2234]

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I completely agree with whomever said that Moran needs to have the ball in his hands more. He should definitely be the point guard of this team over Kwadzo and Ali. I know people are gonna say he's a freshman, but in my opinion he has the highest basketball IQ and the best court vision of anybody we put on the floor every night. Even when he is struggling with his shot he has an unbelievable court savvy and awareness, which can truly impact a game. In my opinion he is our best player as well, and obviously you want the ball in your best player's hands as much as possible. Its not that i don't think Kwadzo has done a nice job with the point, its just that he doesn't really make a whole lot happen from that position and i think he would be much more effective as a slasher from the 2 spot.

[BCPanther]

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Already?

It was at least January before you threw Coleman under the bus last year.

I am not throwing Jordan under the bus. He had a bad night and didn't deserve minutes in the second half. He is always going to struggle against undersized and quick post players...

And why do I feel like you are stalking anyone that actually thinks Jake is a good coach??

[Panther Cat]

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One nice positive thing coming out of this game is we only had 3 turnovers, and only 1 in regulation. That is remarkable, I don't care whether we are playing ISU, Duke, or Wartburg, only turning it over that many times is incredible. Now if we can knock down a few open looks we will be a tough matchup.

[Panther789]

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And why do I feel like you are stalking anyone that actually thinks Jake is a good coach??

I dont know why you feel that way. If I had to guess I would say that you had your heart broken when Mac left, and you are desparate to make it appear as if this program is better off without him.

Last night we lost to Mac, and to a team you acknowledged was HORRIBLE just 3 days earlier, and this may have added to your insecurity regarding Jake.


P.S.

I think Jake:

1. Is a good person in general and a good spokesperson for the University.

2. A good recruiter.

Hopefully, he and this staff will continue to improve their development of players and in-game management.

[FerociousCat]

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One nice positive thing coming out of this game is we only had 3 turnovers, and only 1 in regulation. That is remarkable, I don't care whether we are playing ISU, Duke, or Wartburg, only turning it over that many times is incredible. Now if we can knock down a few open looks we will be a tough matchup.

Please keep your positive comments to yourself