Losses

[DWadle1983]

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Has UNI ever played in the NIT?

If we can trust Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIT_bids_by_school#Missouri_Valley_Conference

UNI is the only MVC school to have never been to the NIT.

[UNIFanSince1983]

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Don't know if we are the only one, but I know for sure UNI has never been in the NIT.

[SteinPizza]

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Thought UIC would be doing much better...

Me too. UIC was in a position to help us, as they beat both Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt on the road. After that, they went downhill. In a wierd way, their season has been an almost polar opposite of ours.

[TravelingPanther]

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UIC is an away game.
And no one wants to go to the NIT it's like kissing your sister.

Really? Another home game and extra practice is bad?

[clenz]

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I would be just has happy, if not more, with an NIT title as I would be with a NCAA first round loss.

[Marc Wigim]

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There's really only one really bad loss on there. That's better than I thought, actually.

[jman2004]

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There's really only one really bad loss on there. That's better than I thought, actually.

True, but also many "winnable" games. UIC is not playing how we thought they would. Iowa State was very winnable. Indiana State kicked us in the butt, but still winnable.

In general, just still a little bitter about the way we showed up in Iowa City. That game was kind of embarrassing.

[BryceC]

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There's really only one really bad loss on there. That's better than I thought, actually.

Unfortunately Iowa State might be a bad loss by the end of the season. I just noticed you guys won yesterday, good season in the works Panthers, congrats.

[SteinPizza]

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Unfortunately Iowa State might be a bad loss by the end of the season.

So will UIC. They lost last night, badly. So bad, that they scored 31 points. Not in a half...in total. If we're on the bubble at the end, UIC may be tough to overcome for someone studying our record. Fortunately, it was early in the season.

[TravelingPanther]

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I think they can seperate 2008 and 2009 if we make for a fantastic 2009

[UnderParPanther]

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Back when we beat LSU at LSU, gameday talking heads made a big deal out of the fact that LSU was a different team when we beat them and they were much better at the end of the season. I think you can say the same thing about this team as we were very inexperienced and have played much better in 2009. I think you can overlook some of the stuff from early in the year if you have a good last 10-15 of the year. We do, however, lack the nonconference signature win to make us at large if we don't get to maybe 23-24 wins on the year.

I'm looking forward to tonite to see if we can continue the shutdown of the other team's leading scorer. 5 for 5 on the road to start the conference would be sweet!

[CincyPanther88]

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I don't think it matters one way or another. If we win the Valley tournament, we're in. If we don't, we're more than likely out.

[jman2004]

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I don't think it matters one way or another. If we win the Valley tournament, we're in. If we don't, we're more than likely out.

Not necessarily. If we win the regular season Valley "title", and win it significantly, we could very easily draw an at-large bid. We need to keep winning, especially on national television.

Looking at our remaining schedule, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict only three more losses. 2 road, 1 home. Bradley on the road will be tough as will Illinois State. I think Drake and Creighton BOTH coming to CF looking for revenge will be tough as well. The rest (albeit ALL games will be dogfights), I'm predicting wins . . . If I'm right, that puts us at 20-9 without the BracketBuster game, heading into the Valley tournament. An "at-large" is definitely NOT out of the picture for this team, despite some poor losses early in the season.

Otherwise, yes, the for sure safe bet, is winning the Valley tournament. So hopefully we are playing like this in St. Louis!

[Panther789]

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Not necessarily. If we win the regular season Valley "title", and win it significantly, we could very easily draw an at-large bid. We need to keep winning, especially on national television.

Looking at our remaining schedule, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict only three more losses. 2 road, 1 home. Bradley on the road will be tough as will Illinois State. I think Drake and Creighton BOTH coming to CF looking for revenge will be tough as well. The rest (albeit ALL games will be dogfights), I'm predicting wins . . . If I'm right, that puts us at 20-9 without the BracketBuster game, heading into the Valley tournament. An "at-large" is definitely NOT out of the picture for this team, despite some poor losses early in the season.

Otherwise, yes, the for sure safe bet, is winning the Valley tournament. So hopefully we are playing like this in St. Louis!

If we lose 10 games, which I believe your hypo suggests, I cant see us getting in.

Illinois State had 10 losses last year, and they had an SOS of 65, which put them at an RPI of 37.

Right now, our SOS is at 111. Hopefully it improves a little bit, but I believe it has been fairly steady for the last few weeks. If we lose 10, I would guess our RPI would be in the 50's (nothing more than an educated guess comparing our SOS with ISU's from last year).

In my opinion, if we lose 2 or more reaining games before St Louis, we are going to have a very difficult time getting an at-large. We could really use a high profile bracketbuster game on the road against someone like St. Mary's to improve our chances.

[06panther10]

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I think there are about two scenarios for us to make the NCAA. We win out, or we win the conf. tournament.