Jordan got off easy

[SpanishMoon]

Re: Jordan got off easy

1) A player shouldn't be drinking mid-season

2) ANY time you drink and drive you could kill someone.

Anyone can hit a deer. You don't have to be drunk. It happens probably every night.

[electricmayhem]

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Really? What was your take on how "the school" handled the Culliver situation? We either 1) weren't concerned with winning, or 2) didn't want to have a point guard on the roster.

Didn't we put this to bed?

I don't remember the specifics on the Culliver case, but I believe it involved a police chase and empty shell casings in his car. The major thing with Culliver is he didn't play a single game for UNI. JE has been part of the program for 4 years. Had the administration known that JE had a drinking problem (not saying he does... just using it hypothetically) prior to his arrival on campus, would they have recruited him?

With Culliver, they got rid of him before he could further damage his reputation as a member of the team.

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Didn't we put this to bed?

I don't remember the specifics on the Culliver case, but I believe it involved a police chase and empty shell casings in his car. The major thing with Culliver is he didn't play a single game for UNI. JE has been part of the program for 4 years. Had the administration known that JE had a drinking problem (not saying he does... just using it hypothetically) prior to his arrival on campus, would they have recruited him?

With Culliver, they got rid of him before he could further damage his reputation as a member of the team.

Stay on (your) point here. Were they not concerned about winning at that time? I mean, dismissing Culliver left UNI without a PG. You may recall Jared Josten logging more minutes than anyone else on the team, playing out of position at the point. The incident happened prior to Culliver's arrival at UNI. If UNI had been only concerned with winning, Culliver would have been punished and remained on the team; he did not.

Honestly, your argument seems to support the opposite position. The team/coach/school DID know Jordan as he had been in the program for 4 years. They understood that he is a good kid and that this was his only offense. They felt that the Official School Policy was sufficient for someone that they knew FAR better than you do. Yet, you feel the need to make a completely uninformed statement about our school/program/coach (with no actual knowledge/evidence of their procedures). I mean, I can understand an affinity for hubris, but this is ridiculous.

[casbern]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Stay on (your) point here. Were they not concerned about winning at that time? I mean, dismissing Culliver left UNI without a PG. You may recall Jared Josten logging more minutes than anyone else on the team, playing out of position at the point. The incident happened prior to Culliver's arrival at UNI. If UNI had been only concerned with winning, Culliver would have been punished and remained on the team; he did not.

Honestly, your argument seems to support the opposite position. The team/coach/school DID know Jordan as he had been in the program for 4 years. They understood that he is a good kid and that this was his only offense. They felt that the Official School Policy was sufficient for someone that they knew FAR better than you do. Yet, you feel the need to make a completely uninformed statement about our school/program/coach (with no actual knowledge/evidence of their procedures). I mean, I can understand an affinity for hubris, but this is ridiculous.

Kaboom.

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Is this what we are going to do during this non-playing time? Dig up old posts from a month ago and argue them? What's the point of opening this issue back up and rehashing it, everyone involved has moved on.

When EM chooses to speak for our school (with no knowledge of the people who actually make the decisions), I feel that somebody should call him on his BS.

[electricmayhem]

Re: Jordan got off easy

When EM chooses to speak for our school (with no knowledge of the people who actually make the decisions), I feel that somebody should call him on his BS.

You are right. I don't know the people that make the decisions. I'm not sure how I spoke for your school, though... it was a simple opinion article.

As far as the persistent claim on this board that I'm uninformed, what exactly am I uninformed about? What is it that I don't know? Do you really think I'd devote the time and energy to the site if I had no clue about basketball, the Valley, or life in general?

It's pretty easy to hide behind a screen name and call someone out. I really don't care if you think I'm uninformed, or if my opinions are BS... I choose not to get in a personal battle with a screen name. If you don't like my material, don't read it. No harm done. I post on these boards to see what the general thoughts of the league are, not to hear someone bash a guy pointlessly.

Speaking of uninformed, do you know anything about me?

[jman2004]

Re: Jordan got off easy

I love how EM has countlessly slammed our school's policies or given us back handed compliments, only to back off and play innocent ("it's only a simple opinion article") after he's ripped a new one from posters on here.

You write an entire article praising people across the league, handing out your own little meaningless, personal season awards and mention UNI little to none . . . in a season in which we DOMINATED the league may I remind you. Then you come on here and post it "innocently", after you've been on here ripping our school and the decision we made regarding Jordan. What greeting were you exactly expecting from our posters and fanbase? We're not idiots.

In fact, reading your articles, one might question whether or not you even knew UNI was in the Valley. The only times I've heard you really give us any kind of props are when you are coming onto OUR board trying to save face after you've opened your mouth elsewhere.

You really shouldn't be surprised when your stuff pisses us off.

[Friend of UNI]

Re: Jordan got off easy

I wish people would just give it a rest and move on. It's done and over let's look forward to the big DANCE!!!!!

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jordan got off easy

You are right. I don't know the people that make the decisions. I'm not sure how I spoke for your school, though... it was a simple opinion article.

As far as the persistent claim on this board that I'm uninformed, what exactly am I uninformed about? What is it that I don't know? Do you really think I'd devote the time and energy to the site if I had no clue about basketball, the Valley, or life in general?

It's pretty easy to hide behind a screen name and call someone out. I really don't care if you think I'm uninformed, or if my opinions are BS... I choose not to get in a personal battle with a screen name. If you don't like my material, don't read it. No harm done. I post on these boards to see what the general thoughts of the league are, not to hear someone bash a guy pointlessly.

Speaking of uninformed, do you know anything about me?

I find it rather amusing that you choose to hide behind "opinion", seemingly believing that it gives you carte blanche to say anything that you'd like. I suppose you'd also support blogs that speculated on various aspects of your personal/professional life, as long as they were veiled as someone's opinion?

[Panther789]

Re: Jordan got off easy

When EM chooses to speak for our school (with no knowledge of the people who actually make the decisions), I feel that somebody should call him on his BS.

When did EM speak for our school?

His picks were a joke, and his comments about JE were probably unfair, but the longer this goes on, the better you are making him look.

[TravelingPanther]

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Speaking of uninformed, do you know anything about me?

Your name is Joe Book.
You're a financial planner at Itasca Bank.
You write for Examiner.com
You are a disc jockey at KBT Entertainment.
You graduated from Bradley with a degree in public relations.
You used to work at JPMorgan.
You used to be an assistant manager at Enterprise Rent-a-Car.

Anything you want to add?

[clenz]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Your name is Joe Book.
You're a financial planner at Itasca Bank.
You write for Examiner.com
You are a disc jockey at KBT Entertainment.
You graduated from Bradley with a degree in public relations.
You used to work at JPMorgan.
You used to be an assistant manager at Enterprise Rent-a-Car.

Anything you want to add?

KA-BOOM?


OR


Stalker-boom?

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Jordan got off easy

KA-BOOM?


OR


Stalker-boom?

It's just google...and I'm parked outside.

[electricmayhem]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Wow. I'm flattered that you all care so much...

Guys, like I said before, I have nothing against UNI. Period. Believe me if you wish, but you have proven that when someone offers an opinion that you don't agree with, you can't handle it.

I know what I'm getting into when I post on the boards... especially when one of my articles contains an opinion that could potentially be disagreed with by a certain school. I'm certainly not saying that I didn't think PN would be upset... I just didn't expect the level of anger and sometimes downright classless behavior I've seen. It either means your blinders can't let you offer constructive criticism of an opinion, or you have nothing else to do.

Again, and for the final time, I'm pro-MVC, pro-UNI, pro-anything having to do with the league. I'm actually pro-message boards, too.

Now that you know all about my life, as given by Google or Linkedin or whatever, does that still make me uninformed?

Men, it's been fun. If I happen to write an article that I think PN would enjoy reading, I'll post the link here. If you want to read it, fine. If not, no worries... but I won't continue to argue meaningless stuff with people I don't know anything about. I'll be cheering for UNI as loud as anyone next week, and I wish you all good luck!

Until next time...

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Jordan got off easy

You're a fun guy, Joe. Glad to see someone who realizes these are just message boards.