Jordan got off easy

[JayJ79]

Re: Jordan got off easy

If he is suspended for the whole year, then he wouldn't have to bother with basketball practice or anything anymore. And thus would have much more free time to spend in the bars. Which in turn might increase the risk of another OWI/DUI/whatever.
Is that really what you want, MSU?

[CyCarp]

Re: Jordan got off easy

I'm surprised it was only three games. It's just inexcusable. This team really needs to pick each other up with him gone. Hopefully it can be something that brings the team together, and when Jordan comes back they'll be even better. But myself, I don't think it's out of line to say that Jordan got off easy...

[olivestreet95]

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MSUBear42.......come on bro...by coming on to our site and talking about this incident proves that you have nothing better to do with your free time. How about this idea, in the spirit of Valentines Day call up one of your other "buddies" on the MSU message board and spoon each other while thinking about how great it will be when you guys lose in the first round of the NIT....please do us all a favor and mind your own business on your own site....

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Heck, at MSU if any student is arrested for DWI it's an automatic month-long suspension from school.

You're going to have to provide evidence for that statement. I shot an email to a buddy of mine at MSU and he said that he knew of no such policy. There are very strict policies (outlined in the student handbook) on alcohol consumption by minors, fake IDs, drug use, etc., but none of these, to his knowledge, had anything to do with driving. Driving infractions are covered by local/state laws.

[KazaamMan76]

Re: Jordan got off easy

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[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Jordan got off easy

If this happened in the summer I don't think people would be clammoring for him to be removed from the team forever. I think a 3 game suspension would be given and he would serve it and it would be over. This is a much more crucial time for the team and for JE...so these 3 games are "harsher" than a typical 3 game suspension. Shoot, the penalty at law is "only" 3 days in jail (at least it used to be). This isn't a pre-meditated offense like robbery or selling drugs. Those would be more of a commentary on his true character and I could see a "death penalty" for those. I think first offense OWI, as bad as it is, is more often than not an offense that is out of character for the individual and there deserves to be a second chance after a penalty is served.

[KazaamMan76]

Re: Jordan got off easy

They may, which really is just fine, they shouldn't do it but I'm sure players everywhere do. But to take the keys and drive after drinking is on a whole different level.

Heck, at MSU if any student is arrested for DWI it's an automatic month-long suspension from school.

WE WANT PROOF WE WANT PROOF.

[MSUBear42]

Re: Jordan got off easy

WE WANT PROOF WE WANT PROOF.

Nope, no proof, I was wrong

[Sonofshoe]

Re: Jordan got off easy

If this happened in the summer I don't think people would be clammoring for him to be removed from the team forever. I think a 3 game suspension would be given and he would serve it and it would be over. This is a much more crucial time for the team and for JE...so these 3 games are "harsher" than a typical 3 game suspension. Shoot, the penalty at law is "only" 3 days in jail (at least it used to be). This isn't a pre-meditated offense like robbery or selling drugs. Those would be more of a commentary on his true character and I could see a "death penalty" for those. I think first offense OWI, as bad as it is, is more often than not an offense that is out of character for the individual and there deserves to be a second chance after a penalty is served.

I personally think that it is a "pre-meditated" action. He knew he was getting in that car, turning it on, etc, etc. Driving drunk is like shooting at someone and missing...unless of course you kill someone.

Bad mistake by Mr. JE. Hopefully he learns a lot about this situation (and alcohol in general)

sorry for the rant...haha

[JayJ79]

Re: Jordan got off easy

I personally think that it is a "pre-meditated" action. He knew he was getting in that car, turning it on, etc, etc. Driving drunk is like shooting at someone and missing...unless of course you kill someone.

Shooting at someone and missing constitutes INTENT to injure/kill.
Most drunk drivers don't INTEND to injure anyone. They just intend to go home (or where-ever else they are heading).

Any accidents/injuries/deaths that occur from drunk driving is more about negligence (the individual not recognizing their inability to drive properly) than it is malicious intent.

Not an excuse for drunk driving, as no individual should operate a potentially deadly weapon (in this case, an automobile), when they aren't in a condition to do so safely. But it's not premeditated.

[UNIAlum95]

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My question is do you put Jordan back in the starting lineup for IlSU?

[BCPanther]

Re: Jordan got off easy

My question is do you put Jordan back in the starting lineup for IlSU?

Yes. Jordan is going to serve his university mandated suspension. This is the penalty the University feels is appropriate.

Its not up to Jake to be the 'morality police' on this. Its his job to win basketball games and get the team ready for the postseason and Jordan creates a unique matchup that helps to make us a dynamic team.

[JayJ79]

Re: Jordan got off easy

My question is do you put Jordan back in the starting lineup for IlSU?

It should depend on how the team performs in the next three games.
If coach feels that the team has a better chance to win against ILS and in the MVC tourney with the guys that started/played against CU, ODU, and UE then he should stick with them. If he feels that having Jordan start will be more beneficial, then he should start him.

[UNI Prof]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Nope, no proof, I was wrong

I'd like to know where you got that information. I mean, you stated it in a rather matter-of-fact manner, yet there seems to be absolutely no truth to it. I'd think that one might at least check the student conduct code prior to asserting what is or is not contained therein.

I can't imagine someone lying in an effort to support an argument on the intrawebs...

[UNIAlum95]

Re: Jordan got off easy

Yes. Jordan is going to serve his university mandated suspension. This is the penalty the University feels is appropriate.

Its not up to Jake to be the 'morality police' on this. Its his job to win basketball games and get the team ready for the postseason and Jordan creates a unique matchup that helps to make us a dynamic team.

Of course it is. He decides who starts every game and he can bench a player for any reason he sees fit. Yes Jordan will be back but that doesn't mean he has to start. If we are playing well without him, he should come off the bench.

To be honest, I'm not sure Lucas hasn't outplayed Jordan and earned the starting spot over the last few games.