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  • Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/spor...e_MVC/13-11161

    For the past several years I’ve been on a mission while covering the Final Four. I find anyone associated with the Missouri Valley Conference and lobby the league to add Oral Roberts University as a member.

    My plea has always been met with either silence or negative feedback. But that wasn’t the case at this year’s event in Houston.

    “You’re preaching to the choir,” said one person with MVC connections. “ORU would be a great fit.”

    ORU leaving the Summit League for the MVC may never happen. Or it could come about quicker than many doubters believe.

    The Golden Eagles’ chances apparently come down to one person – Saint Louis University President Rev. Lawrence Biondi. It’s Biondi who has resisted pleas from his own coaches to leave the Atlantic-10 Conference and join the MVC.

    “We belong in the Missouri Valley,” men’s basketball coach Rick Majerus has said repeatedly.

    The MVC would obviously love to add a school that’s located in the same city as the league’s headquarters.

    And if that ever happens, the 10-member MVC would look to expand to 12 schools. Several insiders have said ORU would be a strong contender to be that 12th school.

    MVC officials are aware of the dramatic impact Mart Green and his family have had on ORU’s financial stability. In the past, those MVC administrators always dismissed my campaign because they knew the school at 81st and Lewis faced some serious financial issues.

    The MVC, which was once home to the University Tulsa and had its headquarters in T-Town, has a great basketball tradition. It’s also a much better geographical fit for ORU that the Summit League, which is also the reason Majerus wants out of the A-10.

    “The A-10’s a good league, but you’ve got to cross two states,” Majerus told reporters in January 2010, after the Billikens played against A-10 member Fordham, which is located in Bronx, N.Y. “You want to fly to Rhode Island, New York, Charlotte, all those places and stay out and spend and be in high-end cities, or do you want to go on a bus and go to Bradley and Southern Illinois and Indiana State and those places?”

    I haven’t contacted ORU officials to gauge their interest because they aren’t about to say anything to upset their Summit League partners. But it’s well known that they would love to become part of the tradition-rich MVC.

    Well it ever happen? For now, that’s apparently up Rev. Biondi, the school president since 1987 who has stubbornly resisted the suggestions of the outspoken Majerus and other SLU coaches.

    Bondi, who CBSSports.com college basketball writer Gary Parrish once wrote has a “famously massive ego,” obviously isn’t going to be at SLU forever. But it would be nice if he changed his mind soon, because I’m running out of Final Four lobbying opportunities.
    UNI FIGHT

    Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
    iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

  • #2
    Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

    that would be nice! thought i don't mind playing all teams twice

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    • #3
      Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

      Funny that Parrish said that...
      Originally posted by rockybison
      You guys suck so bad. Please never let me come back. Ya had 20 yrs by yourself and ya fckd it up. SU rolls in and does it in 4, prolly next year too. Living in a shadow is killn ya.

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      • #4
        Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

        ORU and NDSU to MVC as a package.. sounds fine to me.
        UNI has #2 Dome in MVFC, but Ice Lounge rocks! BisoNation.com

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        • #5
          Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

          Originally posted by Casey'sitsallgood View Post
          Funny that Parrish said that...
          isn't that the douchetard that hated us a few years back...i seem to remember him reminding me of THIS guy

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          • #6
            Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

            Yes he was the one who always managed to bad mouth us on his weekly top 26 and then had to it his words after we beat Kansas

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            • #7
              Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

              Originally posted by jnutt View Post
              isn't that the douchetard that hated us a few years back...i seem to remember him reminding me of THIS guy

              what do you mean? that guy is AWESOME!

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              • #8
                Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                Originally posted by jnutt View Post
                isn't that the douchetard that hated us a few years back...i seem to remember him reminding me of THIS guy

                he looks like they took the picture mid crap (dump). Which is exactly how I picture that dude that hated us

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                • #9
                  Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                  does he start up "we want Orel!" chants?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                    Hmmm, ORU's Reverend Prez has a massive ego?!?!? What a shock, considering the namesake of the school once told he "flock" with a straight face that "God would take him" if he didn't raise $8M in 2 months. We might as well ask Jimmy Swaggert U to join as well, or maybe Pat Robertson college

                    Rips on televangelists aside, ORU and St. Louis U would probably be good fits. Much better than any of the Dakota schools from a basketball and demographics standpoint.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                      Is a school in Tulsa, OK really a better fit than USD or SDSU...or heaven forbid NDSU?

                      Not that USD is anywhere MVC level...nor SDSU really....nor do they add footprint really.

                      Still seems odd to take a school *that far* away

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                      • #12
                        Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                        IMO, ORU is not a great fit. Would much rather see Butler or Milwaukee for the TV markets they bring, both are much bigger than a Tulsa market that bleeds Crimson and Cream...

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                          Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                          Originally posted by UNI83 View Post
                          Is a school in Tulsa, OK really a better fit than USD or SDSU...or heaven forbid NDSU?

                          Not that USD is anywhere MVC level...nor SDSU really....nor do they add footprint really.

                          Still seems odd to take a school *that far* away
                          None of the Dakota schools are MVC level. Do they have any basketball tradition whatsoever? The MVC has tradition as a league, and can afford to be picky who it lets in. Basketball is far more important to the value of the MVC brand than FCS football, so that's how those schools should be judged for admission to the league.

                          The league was pretty damn good at times during the 70s and 80s when Tulsa was a member. The overall level of talent was better then. Some in the league office will remember that, and potentially view ORU's admission as a way back to that. That said, I agree with someone above that Butler and UW Milwaukee would be far better additions than ORU and SLU. However, ORU and SLU would be far better admissions than any of the Dakota schools.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                            Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                            IMO, ORU is not a great fit. Would much rather see Butler or Milwaukee for the TV markets they bring, both are much bigger than a Tulsa market that bleeds Crimson and Cream...
                            As opposed to the Indy market that also bleeds Crimson and Cream?

                            Yes, I realize Indy is much larger than Tulsa. Just pointing it out.
                            Originally posted by rockybison
                            You guys suck so bad. Please never let me come back. Ya had 20 yrs by yourself and ya fckd it up. SU rolls in and does it in 4, prolly next year too. Living in a shadow is killn ya.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

                              Its not ORU that is appealing. Its SLU. They are a good fit, and they should be in the MVC. That is a school that has some great potential basketball wise, and is ideal for the Valley. I think they even just opened up a brand new arena in the last couple years. ORU would just be the throw in team to get to 12.

                              I agree with those who believe that Milwaukee would probably be a better fit than ORU though. Butler would be another obvious choice and a slam dunk, but what incentive would they have to leave now? That ship has probably sailed.

                              As far as any of the Dakota shools. Hell no....
                              UNI FIGHT

                              Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                              iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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