Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

[06panther10]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

Is a school in Tulsa, OK really a better fit than USD or SDSU...or heaven forbid NDSU?

Not that USD is anywhere MVC level...nor SDSU really....nor do they add footprint really.

Still seems odd to take a school *that far* away

Anyone is a better fit than the Dakota schools.

[06panther10]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

Hmmm, ORU's Reverend Prez has a massive ego?!?!? What a shock, considering the namesake of the school once told he "flock" with a straight face that "God would take him" if he didn't raise $8M in 2 months. We might as well ask Jimmy Swaggert U to join as well, or maybe Pat Robertson college

Rips on televangelists aside, ORU and St. Louis U would probably be good fits. Much better than any of the Dakota schools from a basketball and demographics standpoint.

I believe the article was actually referencing SLU's president, not ORU's.

[lakesbison]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

NDSU made the tourney just 2 years ago, with plenty of nationwide fanfare.

NDSU is 50% minnesota and should have a new arena next year.

NDSU has 180,000 people in their city.


in the 80's-90's NDSU averaged 7000/fans in a dump... only 4000 now because of that dump..


NDSU should be in MVC's level.

[panther2317]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

Tulsa has a population of 591,000.

The central issue to me is what do you add from a tv perspective by adding any of these schools?

Tulsa would get Valley basketball on Fox Sports SW. Any of the Dakota schools get the Valley on Fox Sports North.

UNI recruits Minnesota well, and it would be nice to get UNI on tv in fertile recruiting ground. But there are more televisions on FS SW...right?

[Trapped in California]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

NDSU made the tourney just 2 years ago, with plenty of nationwide fanfare.

NDSU is 50% minnesota and should have a new arena next year.

NDSU has 180,000 people in their city.


in the 80's-90's NDSU averaged 7000/fans in a dump... only 4000 now because of that dump..


NDSU should be in MVC's level.

Keep ****ing that chicken - see where it gets ya

[UNIpanther99]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

High School Coach makes more than North Dakota State Coach.

Those personal testaments match a report from high school basketball blogger Adam Zagoria which claimed Boyle's new salary will be $130,000 annually. If that number is true, Boyle will be paid more than four current NCAA Division I coaches, including the head men at Binghamton and North Dakota State, both of which have made the NCAA tournament in recent seasons.

[casbern]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

NDSU has 180,000 people in their city.

NDSU should be in MVC's level.

In 2010, its population was 105,549

Source: Wikipedia (2010 Census)

...hell, even if you included all of the Fargo-Moorhead area, nearly 33% (208,777) of the state's population resides there.

There is no way in hell that I'd prefer this option, the population just isn't there.

[UNIpanther99]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

I really wish UMKC would invest more in their basketball program. They make great sense for the Valley in terms of population and geography. Unfortunally the 'Roos are pretty awful. If they were to invest in a decent coach and some nice practice facilities (historic Memorial Auditorium isn't a bad playing venue), recruit some good local talent, they could be a really attractive option.

[williebat]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

Whatever happened to the plan to rename north dakota to just Dakota?

seriously this was an idea a couple of year back.

[06panther10]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

High School Coach makes more than North Dakota State Coach.

lol


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[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

I really wish UMKC would invest more in their basketball program. They make great sense for the Valley in terms of population and geography. Unfortunally the 'Roos are pretty awful. If they were to invest in a decent coach and some nice practice facilities (historic Memorial Auditorium isn't a bad playing venue), recruit some good local talent, they could be a really attractive option.

I agree completely - would make sense geographically to have St. Louis and UMKC. Too bad the Roos are so awful - but maybe that could change if they were able to get into the Valley and recruit some kids from their area.

[panther1]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

I agree completely - would make sense geographically to have St. Louis and UMKC. Too bad the Roos are so awful - but maybe that could change if they were able to get into the Valley and recruit some kids from their area.

I like this idea. I would prefer to see UMKC over Tulsa. Makes great sense geographically. Could break out well into 2 divisions as well...

"West": Creighton, Wichita State, UMKC, Drake, MSU, UNI

"East": St. Louis, Bradley, Illinois State, SIU, Evansville, INSU

The West would be a bit top heavy with recent results, but geographically that would be an excellent split.

[achrist70]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

I like this idea. I would prefer to see UMKC over Tulsa. Makes great sense geographically. Could break out well into 2 divisions as well...

"West": Creighton, Wichita State, UMKC, Drake, MSU, UNI

"East": St. Louis, Bradley, Illinois State, SIU, Evansville, INSU

The West would be a bit top heavy with recent results, but geographically that would be an excellent split.

I think that the west would become the Big 12 south.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

Adding Tulsa/ODU is basically adding another Drake. Same sized market, same level of local interest.

SLU is another thing, however.

The NDSU's of the world add absolutely nothing. Literally nothing. If they are ever in the league it means the MVC has permanently become the 13th best league in the country.

[BCPanther]

Re: Oral Roberts & Saint Louis U to the MVC?

I think that the west would become the Big 12 south.

I like that analogy-

UNI= Oklahoma-consistent, always there.
WSU=Texas-lots of money, delusion of history, pure arrogance
MSU= Texas A&M- always on the doorstep, but never quite there.
Creighton= Oklahoma State- tons of money, but what are they really buying?
Drake = Texas Tech-littlest brother that craves attention.
UMKC= Baylor-Why are they here??