Reality Check

[BCPanther]

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IMO, the Wisconsin job scares me a hell of a lot more than the Minnesota job.

If I'm Jake I'm waiting out a 64-year-old Bo Ryan...

[Trapped in California]

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IMO, the Wisconsin job scares me a hell of a lot more than the Minnesota job.

If I'm Jake I'm waiting out a 64-year-old Bo Ryan...

I believe that Zach Bohannon boy already has dibbs on that slot

[jnutt]

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IMO, the Wisconsin job scares me a hell of a lot more than the Minnesota job.

If I'm Jake I'm waiting out a 64-year-old Bo Ryan...

been saying this for a long time. I have a few Wisc friends and we talk about how similar Bo Ryan and Jacobson are. Heck I even know a guy that used to Ref and he said the same thing.

[ProwlingPanther]

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aside from A&M. Only Coach Jake and Spanish Moon know what really happened.

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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been saying this for a long time. I have a few Wisc friends and we talk about how similar Bo Ryan and Jacobson are. Heck I even know a guy that used to Ref and he said the same thing.

Hmm... System: yes. Game-day coaching style: no. Ryan is one of the most fiery sideline presences I can think of (non-Frank Martin category) while Coach Jake is absolutely the opposite.

But Coach Ryan does seem about as sincere as a "big-time" coach could be, which I really like. There's some guys you can see through, (Roy Williams particularly. Can't stand him.) but Coach Jake and Coach Ryan are definitely not that type.

[panther-state]

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Why are we arguing over this? WHO CARES?? It doesn't matter who turned down who and blah blah blah. The only reason that I've even bothered to continue reading these posts and have remote interest in the aftermath of this situation is (YES, there is very little else to talk about in the world of UNI right now) because some people...not going to mention names...no, seriously, I'm not.......okay fine SPANISH MOON, seems to think Coach Jake should be completely embarrassed and the laughing stock of NCAA MBB simply because he didn't land a job that many many mid-major coaches could only dream of being considered for.

Now, whether SM and Co. are wrong or right about A&M turning Jacobson down for the job I do not know (just like everyone else who is NOT a big wig for A&M or a member of the Jacobson family...and of course Spanish himself), however I do know that Ben Jacobson has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in any case of this situation. Does anyone besides that all-knowing, infallable and rightous Spanish Moon feel as though I am wrong and misguided in this train of thought? I am still looking for a sensible explanation for why Coach Jake should run off crying and lock himself in a closet to sulk for not being offered (or for turning down) this job at TAMU.

For those of you saying that we are not closer to the truth than Spanish, I don't think anyone has attacked SM for thinking Coach Jake was turned down but we have attacked him for his foolish take on what Jacobson not being hired by TAMU (or deciding not to accept...) mean's in the large scope of things...and for Spanish being a bit of an arrogant tool about this...and for broadcasting his lovelife on this board. Although I guess that's just one more thing to talk about but still...

[END RANT]

[casbern]

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IMO, it doesn't matter who turned down who. It's obvious Jake was a finalist, he should be honored that he was considered to take over a program that has the potential to be a perennial top 20 contender, with great facilities and a very solid financial support base. Point is though, it took Jake just the right amount of everything to be perfect for him to even consider entertaining the thought of the possibility of leaving UNI. I think we are just incredibliy lucky to be in the situation we are, with the coach and the future we have.

Great day to be a Panther!

[Purrrrrfect]

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Panther1, you must be related to Spanishmoon, because your arguments and rationale are more loaded with BS than BS itself.

I know from experience as an interviewer and interviewee that the first person to interview, maybe...and thats a strong MAYBE, gets even an offer 50% of the time.

So unless you are Ben's wife with this in-the-know information, give it up.

[UNIChippewa]

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Speculation is kind of fun, as long as we can leave the personal attacks and name-calling out of it.

Writing about speculation, here's a purely hypothetical question for all of you; Tubby Smith is fired from Minnesota while Bo Ryan simultaneously retires from Wisconsin. Which job does Coach Jake take first?

[9YRPLAN]

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Myself I have trouble believing that Jake wanted more money. $1.35 mil (I think was reportedly the most A&M would offer) is still a huge raise from what he's making now. I can't imagine him turning down a raise that size because it's not enough. Especially what we've seem from him as a person. Also, from everything I read Ben was the one who called A&M. Kind of odd that A&M would tell him to withdrew his name if that's the case. But then again everybody could just be lying about everything. Either way, everybody reads the story and puts it together there own way. I can kind of see your point of view, but all the facts just doesn't add up like that for me.

it might be a huge raise annually NOW, but if he gets a 5 year deal and then fails miserably and ends up unemployed like Lickliter, its not really worth much more than his current deal.

[Luckycat]

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I don't think I've ever seen so many people argue over who turned who down, or whatever you want to call it. (And that's saying a lot because there are some weird arguments over on CycloneFanatic) But, does it really matter? In the end, you should just be damn happy that Ben is staying at UNI.

Totally agree with this. It's just that some folks like to imply that they have some "inside" information. Or, they state opinion as fact and question the naivete of those who question their opinion. And yes, I had to look up the spelling of "naivete."

[casbern]

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And yes, I had to look up the spelling of "naivete."

Nicely done.

[cydave]

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And yes, I had to look up the spelling of "naivete."

I had to double check, just to make sure.

[Casey'sitsallgood]

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panther1, you must be related to spanishmoon

same person, different posters!!!

speculation is kind of fun, as long as we can leave the personal attacks and name-calling out of it.

Writing about speculation, here's a purely hypothetical question for all of you; tubby smith is fired from minnesota while bo ryan simultaneously retires from wisconsin. Which job does coach jake take first?

stop it with your anti-name calling you toilet cleaning hot dog eater!!!

Coach jake will take both jobs, hire carlos anderson and ben boothby as his assistants and win the national championship. With both teams. While wearing combination superman/tim tebow pajama pants and the badge of the #1 texas ranger.

[casbern]

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Coach jake will take both jobs, hire carlos anderson and ben boothby as his assistants and win the national championship. With both teams. While wearing combination superman/tim tebow pajama pants and the badge of the #1 texas ranger.

Addendum: They will do this all while flipping Stanzi off as he continues on his life long journey of being the best used car salesman Ismay, Montana.