Valley Expansion Close?

[06panther10]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

Air Force will be #11 and NDSU will be #12.

Typical small time Valley thinking. Should be going after SLU and Butler...

There will be no #11 and there will be no #12, IMO. Some of this AFA is just silly.

And even if there was, who's to say the MVC isn't going after SLU and Butler? Its not exactly an easy thing to get those schools (mainly Butler) to come over to a tough MVC.

Also, I don't know if NDSU would be willing to leave all the other Dakota schools out in the cold like that if they were ever invited into the Valley (god please no), as they have been pretty much tied at the hip to SDSU thru all of their D1 transition.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

IMO, it's laughable to mention NDSU and the AFA in the same thread. AFA makes much more sense given the name recognition, but in reality what do they really bring to help the MVC's premier sport (men's basketball)?

[clenz]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I hope to every higher being anyone has ever believed that NDSU is never a valley team...

[BCPanther]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I completely agree. I don't want NDSU either, however, this is mostly the same group of people that invited USD to the MVFC...

They are going to do what's easy if they need a twelfth, and NDSU is easy...

[SteinPizza]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I completely agree. I don't want NDSU either, however, this is mostly the same group of people that invited USD to the MVFC...

They are going to do what's easy if they need a twelfth, and NDSU is easy...

I may be missing something here, but potential expansion in the MVC runs contrary to the rest of the nation. In other words, football doesn't count much, because the MVC's premier sport is, and always will be, men's basketball. Sure, USD was invited, but that's football...men's basketball is higher profile, and it drives the bus. If you need a 12th member, invite a school who enhances your profile in men's hoops.

[casbern]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I may be missing something here, but potential expansion in the MVC runs contrary to the rest of the nation. In other words, football doesn't count much, because the MVC's premier sport is, and always will be, men's basketball. Sure, USD was invited, but that's football...men's basketball is higher profile, and it drives the bus. If you need a 12th member, invite a school who enhances your profile in men's hoops.

I agree with this. IF we are going to pursue someone to expand the conference it'd need to be schools that provided a competitive background similar to that of The MVC and it's history, and secondly; a decent, relative market and fan base.

[BCPanther]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I don't disagree with any of you. I am just saying that this is a group that has shown they go with the easy solution.

AFA contacted them. Easy. NDSU would never say no. Easy

[Sycamorefan]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

I don't disagree with any of you. I am just saying that this is a group that has shown they go with the easy solution.

AFA contacted them. Easy. NDSU would never say no. Easy

And that would thin out the western division...

[D Panther]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

Weather or not you like NDSU, they do think big. They want to big a bigger player at the D 1 level and they have the resources to back it up. As for television they are in the Fox sports north area. They also have a large alumni base in the Twin Cities. Their addition would give the MVC a larges presence there. The MVC does need to lot at expanding. It will position them to become than a 1 bid league.

[06panther10]

Re: Valley Expansion Close?

NDSU or SDSU will not come close to (hypothetical) consideration for our conference until they do something about those awful dumpy bball gyms that they play in.