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[9YRPLAN]

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i do in fact hope that this was a small **** you to iowa after how the big four series ended up. it will likely cause the demise of the league an piss off a bunch of iowa fans. actually, that makes it a big **** you.

[williebat]

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i do in fact hope that this was a small **** you to iowa after how the big four series ended up. it will likely cause the demise of the league an piss off a bunch of iowa fans. actually, that makes it a big **** you.

I say this should be the first big **** you the second will be when we do not renew the big four tourney

[06panther10]

i do in fact hope that this was a small **** you to iowa after how the big four series ended up. it will likely cause the demise of the league an piss off a bunch of iowa fans. actually, that makes it a big **** you.

I agree, I hope that was the case. In fact, Im sure that it did have something to do with it. In that case, good for Jake and good for UNI.

But, regardless if it is or not, who really cares...the PTL was pretty much a joke anyway. Our guys will be much better served by working on our campus with our coaches.

[SteinPizza]

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But, regardless if it is or not, who really cares...the PTL was pretty much a joke anyway. Our guys will be much better served by working on our campus with our coaches.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the players can't work out with our coaches during the PTL timeframe. Those would be considered practices and violate a bunch of NCAA rules, correct? Now, I'm sure they're following an informal sense of direction from the coaches during this time, but...

Sure, the PTL was a throw it up there league, but how else are our players going to be able to work out against other D1 level players other than themselves? And, is the DSM area league an option?

[BCPanther]

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New rules allow coaches two hours with the full team per week in the summer and up to 10 hours per player in individual workouts. Summer leagues in general will die.

It is also a big F U to Fran, which is awesome.

[06panther10]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the players can't work out with our coaches during the PTL timeframe. Those would be considered practices and violate a bunch of NCAA rules, correct? Now, I'm sure they're following an informal sense of direction from the coaches during this time, but...

Sure, the PTL was a throw it up there league, but how else are our players going to be able to work out against other D1 level players other than themselves? And, is the DSM area league an option?

Under NCAA legislation passed last week, men's college basketball coaches will be allowed to work with players in the summer as long as players are either on track to graduate or in summer school.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T6h9Ko4i49B

Larson said the reason behind UNI’s decision is related to NCAA legislation passed last January, which allows coaches to spend more hours around their players during the summer. As a result, Jacobson opted to not have his players travel down to the North Liberty Community Center twice a week.

http://hawkeyedrive.com/2012/05/07/p...s-this-summer/

[CR Panther]

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Sometimes I wonder what color the sky is in the world in which Larson lives. He can't even fake being partial....participating doesn't do much for UofI, but does the world for UNI?

He's clueless if he thinks their absence won't impact the level of competitiveness.

I'm still stinging from this Des Moines tourny. I hope this move was a "stick it to 'em" of sorts.

[SteinPizza]

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Under NCAA legislation passed last week, men's college basketball coaches will be allowed to work with players in the summer as long as players are either on track to graduate or in summer school.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/01/basketball-coaches-get-their-wish-more-access-in-summer/1#.T6h9Ko4i49B

Larson said the reason behind UNI’s decision is related to NCAA legislation passed last January, which allows coaches to spend more hours around their players during the summer. As a result, Jacobson opted to not have his players travel down to the North Liberty Community Center twice a week.

http://hawkeyedrive.com/2012/05/07/p...s-this-summer/

Thanks. The move makes more sense given the above.

I still don't really see the "stick it to Iowa" angle in this. Sure, it's hosted in Iowa City and run by some people who are obvious Iowa supporters, but the school itself doesn't profit, does it? If U of I is getting "stuck", it's very indirect, if at all. I do agree that Larsen's comments are kind of stupid.

[9YRPLAN]

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id say the style of play in the PTL helps iowa more than UNI. there is little to no team defense played. also, iowa fans seem to have a much greater interest in the league.

[Khan4Cats]

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I have no problem with this. The league was always meant as a showcase for Iowa players and UNI players were dealt with in a second-class nature with the exception of Coach Lehmen who actually seemed to prefer having the UNI players on his squad. I agree, the style of play in the league has never been UNI's format and it favors McCaffrey's run and gun score 100 and lose by 10 style even more now.

Being able to work more directly with our own players and develop within our system is only going to be beneficial. I don't think the 'lack of exposure to other division I athletes' is going to have a negative effect on our players.

Now if we really do want to stick it to Iowa, we could announce a new league forming to be played in Iowa Falls against the ISU players or in Rochester against the Minnesota players or, even better, in Platteville or Dubuque in a league combining with Wisconsin players.

[Panther Cat]

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I say this should be the first big **** you the second will be when we do not renew the big four tourney

Unfortunately that will not be the case. As unfair as it feels to UNI & Drake it's still a good chance to make some money for the program and play a BCS school on a neutral court. Would love to go back to the home & home series but Iowa & ISU won't do that again. So unfortunately, this is the best case for us right now.

[9YRPLAN]

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theres no way we opt out of the big four event unless the attendance numbers completely tank. it will still be a net gain for us.

[Trapped in California]

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Under NCAA legislation passed last week, men's college basketball coaches will be allowed to work with players in the summer as long as players are either on track to graduate or in summer school.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/01/basketball-coaches-get-their-wish-more-access-in-summer/1#.T6h9Ko4i49B

Larson said the reason behind UNI’s decision is related to NCAA legislation passed last January, which allows coaches to spend more hours around their players during the summer. As a result, Jacobson opted to not have his players travel down to the North Liberty Community Center twice a week.

http://hawkeyedrive.com/2012/05/07/p...s-this-summer/

I am going to say that this change will have a huge impact on MBB going forward. I think you will see a number of mid-major/bubble teams move up the food chain with this type of change.

Teams like UNI that focus on team defense & system offense will benefit more from increased coaching exposure over four-five years' time than the Kentucky's of the world, featuring the 1 & done mentality.

Kentucky, et al, may benefit from working with the incoming freshman during the summer, but that requires another semester of school. For some of the 1 & done players, this is an additional risk of being disqualified for poor academics.

It will be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out over the next several seasons.

[ubuntuCAT]

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theres no way we opt out of the big four event unless the attendance numbers completely tank. it will still be a net gain for us.

Correct. The event sucks compared to the home and home (for all 4 schools IMO). That said, it is way better than not playing at all.

[clenz]

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I wouldn't say "way" better....but "better" none-the-less