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  • #16
    Originally posted by PantherHawk
    lets face it, we are not as good as what everyone thinks we are. Every school in the nation just saw how to shut us down, PRESS and drop back into a zone.
    Its too early for this talk. Its one freaking game. The last time we lost to ISU at Hilton we went dancing, so the world is not ending. Mac will make the adjustments. I've never bought the "they did this and so now everyone will beat us with it" philosophy. Different teams play different styles and are more suited for different D's. Few teams we play will have the athleticism of ISU and thusly the press will not work as well. The press can be easily out coached, and Mac will be up to the task. I'm out for the night. Everyone take a deep breath. Something like 25-26 regular season games to go. It will be fine

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    • #17
      Originally posted by PantherHawk
      lets face it, we are not as good as what everyone thinks we are. Every school in the nation just saw how to shut us down, PRESS and drop back into a zone. Coach mac is a good coach, but damn we looked like Crap out there. Seriously if we want to have any success in the MVC we better get a lot better before the season. I hate to say it, but Iowa is going to come into the Dome and do the same thing that ISU did and prob whip our ass. I hate to be Negative, but being a competitor i wasn't happy with tonights performance at all, they looked like ****, i hope they get better soon! Also i would prob start little over Mckowen, sorry but he is no real threat to the opposing team, he can't make a basket, at least little can score and also play D.
      You mean the same game plan that ISU tried last year and we shredded with the same team on the floor? Again...if we shoot the ball we win. Against a team like ISU controlling the tempo is critical, looked what happened when we turned the ball over against the press. Which leads me to why Brooks needs to start and play big minutes even if he isn't knocking down shots. If he makes 2 of the 4 shots he took tonight and we win everyone is saying what a great job he did. He didn't, but it doesn't change the floor game he played. We lack depth at point guard, we will develop it as the year goes on...tonight was not the night. J Lit isn't a point guard, not against the press anyway.....couldn't disagree with your entire post more.
      ...by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries. Yep, it's made with bits of real panther. So you know it's good."

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      • #18
        Just got back from the game, we definitely had a hard time getting the ball up the court. Kind of scares me about playing Drake. Once we get the three point ball falling we'll be ok. For those of you who watched the game, did they say anything about why Stinson didn't start?

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        • #19
          Panthers did fine against the press. Had a couple lapses later in 2nd half as they were pressing when the clock started to get low. But overall they were poised and in control. Need to get more movement on offense, force the action a bit more, play defense with a bad attitude, hit some shots and MAKE FREE THROWS and we'll be fine. The press is not a problem.
          Winning is more fun than losing.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by PantherHawk
            lets face it, we are not as good as what everyone thinks we are. Every school in the nation just saw how to shut us down, PRESS and drop back into a zone. Coach mac is a good coach, but damn we looked like Crap out there. Seriously if we want to have any success in the MVC we better get a lot better before the season. I hate to say it, but Iowa is going to come into the Dome and do the same thing that ISU did and prob whip our ass. I hate to be Negative, but being a competitor i wasn't happy with tonights performance at all, they looked like ****, i hope they get better soon! Also i would prob start little over Mckowen, sorry but he is no real threat to the opposing team, he can't make a basket, at least little can score and also play D.
            Hate to say this but it sounds like you might have a case of that ill-fated, fickle-driven Hawkeye fan disease... I am beginning to believe that Hawk fans would sell their own mother if she lost the weekly mah-jongh game at the senior center...
            Irreverence is another person's disrespect to your god; there isn't any word that tells what your disrespect to his god is. -- Mark Twain

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            • #21
              I think the press threw off timing....

              Also, we need to shoot FTs better....

              BUT....not every team will have a Stinson....and Not Every team is going to have a Hilton.....


              Lets be positive....
              "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

              dti

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              • #22
                I agree Chitown, just think a few years ago, very few people would be upset over a close loss to ISU at Hilton. Our shots will start to fall.

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                • #23
                  quick thoughts

                  The tv analysis was painful, they seemed to really lack any "x's and o's" knowledge, could only talk about athleticism displayed by dunks, and used the latest in basketball rhetoric: "basketball iq."

                  About the game, it seemed like UNI really lost the game instead of having been beat. As much as ISU was aggressive on defense, UNI was in the game dispite having a poor shooting night.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Blue42
                    Panthers did fine against the press. Had a couple lapses later in 2nd half as they were pressing when the clock started to get low. But overall they were poised and in control. Need to get more movement on offense, force the action a bit more, play defense with a bad attitude, hit some shots and MAKE FREE THROWS and we'll be fine. The press is not a problem.
                    Agree with this and that is the point I was trying to make with my post above. The vast majority of the time we did handle the press...the few times we didn't it gave ISU a little spurt. One of the main reasons we did handle it well was the fact that McKowen was on the floor.

                    Nothing but positivity flowing from the Sex Panther The Panthers can still achieve all their goals this year...a win at Hilton would have been a nice bonus but "when in Rome"
                    ...by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries. Yep, it's made with bits of real panther. So you know it's good."

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                    • #25
                      How many minutes did Trav play? ESPN.com says 0 minutes for everybody but that can't be right? But it did say he didn't score nor take a shot? What was the deal there? Did he look uncomfortable tonight?
                      "Man shut up before I comb your hair and brush your teeth!" - Travis Brown

                      "Come to the McLeod kid!" - Travis Brown

                      "I was getting interviewed on the radio and Gary Rima was like "Somebody's been hyping you up on the Panthernation board." And I thought "Oh hell naw that's Sam". So I just told him that it was just one of my good friends from back home." - Travis Brown

                      Founder of the 1st Travis Brown Fan Club
                      http://groups.myspace.com/TravisBrownUNI21

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                      • #26
                        This game, while disapointing, wasn't all that horrible. It was at hilton against pissed off ISU team, and it was a game we could have easily won. We will start making the open shots and will still have a good non-conference season.

                        The main question I have is Where was Santos, Viet, or Williams? No team can win without any depth.

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                        • #27
                          I'm disappointed but not jumping off the bandwagon by any means. Here's a few thoughts:

                          - Free throw shooting seems to keep getting worse and worse. Two years ago we were very good from the line, last year a big drop off, this year has been terrible. Time to make some adjustments there. 50% won't cut it for the season. The team should be around 75%.
                          - Crawford needs to find his timing again. Once he's back on track it'll take some pressure off the others.
                          - Little hit some big threes and continues to be a force off the bench. The problem is who is behind him. I said this before and got a little ribbing for it but Santos is a ways off as is Josten for big time games. Mac showed that he isn't ready to give these guys minutes if he really doesn't have to in big games. We need someone on the bench to become a big time player to be successful this season.
                          - Benny looked good and if some of the rest of the team starts hitting outside he'll get more looks. Probably his best game this year.
                          - We've got to continue to pound the ball inside. That means we need Stout down in the paint too. If we're not hitting outside we have to be able to win by going down low and pounding it in from close range.
                          - Coleman was a stud on the offensive end but did not exist when it came down to defensive boards. Seven boards and not one defensive. That can't happen.

                          Let it stew tonight, then move on to Loyola tomorrow. Big game Saturday that we'll need a good performance to win. We'll find out more about Loyola tomorrow against BU, but they look like a pretty decent team that we can't afford to overlook. I liked Ben's quote in the paper stating that as underdogs we came out fired up, we need to be able to do that as favorites too. He hit it on the head. They've got some work to do. See you Saturday.
                          Last edited by UNIAlum95; 11-30-2005, 08:50 AM.
                          If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                          • #28
                            Overated

                            Your bench let you down and your boys got tired. Jacobson can't do it all. He needs support. What do you do next year when he is gone?

                            Damn.. why couldn't you guys have won.. all you are now is an RPI killer.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TravOforTHREE
                              How many minutes did Trav play? ESPN.com says 0 minutes for everybody but that can't be right? But it did say he didn't score nor take a shot? What was the deal there? Did he look uncomfortable tonight?
                              Travis played one brief stint in the first half...less than a minute. Coaches decision and not surprising for Mac to go with a short bench in a big road game early in the season. I suspect it was the defensive end of the court that kept Travis out of the game tonight...as well as the rest of the guards. ISU presents some difficult matchups.
                              ...by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries. Yep, it's made with bits of real panther. So you know it's good."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by UNIAlum95
                                I'm disappointed but not jumping off the bandwagon by any means. Here's a few thoughts:

                                - Coleman was a stud on the offensive end but did not exist when it came down to defensive boards. Seven boards and not one offensive. That can't happen.

                                I believe you meant to say all 7 of those boards were offensive....Coleman had 0 defensive boards

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