First offense. Let's not be to harsh. I was 20 once and committed both the crimes this kid did Just lucky I did not get caught. If I could go back I would be more responsible.
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First offense simply means first time caught. And it the first offense that we know about, he's only been in Iowa a year and a half. BDJ (obviously a worse guy than Aarias...) was only caught once in Ames too, but he was a menace in town for his short stay.Originally posted by williebat View PostFirst offense. Let's not be to harsh. I was 20 once and committed both the crimes this kid did Just lucky I did not get caught. If I could go back I would be more responsible.
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I can't speak for anybody else, but it's obvious to me that Austin is an evil, hardened criminal for life based on this one mistake, and not only should he be banned from the UNI campus, but the city of Cedar Falls, the state of Iowa...nay, the whole country!, would be safer, more civilized places if he was locked away for the rest of his natural life. Better yet, he needs to be chemically castrated so that he can't pass on his evil, nefarious ways to any potential prodigy. Take that Austin Aarias, you foul piece of scum!Originally posted by panther1 View PostFirst offense simply means first time caught. And it the first offense that we know about, he's only been in Iowa a year and a half. BDJ (obviously a worse guy than Aarias...) was only caught once in Ames too, but he was a menace in town for his short stay.

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You're an idiot if that's what you got from my post. An absurd, ridiculous idiot...Originally posted by UNIChippewa View PostI can't speak for anybody else, but it's obvious to me that Austin is an evil, hardened criminal for life based on this one mistake, and not only should he be banned from the UNI campus, but the city of Cedar Falls, the state of Iowa...nay, the whole country!, would be safer, more civilized places if he was locked away for the rest of his natural life. Better yet, he needs to be chemically castrated so that he can't pass on his evil, nefarious ways to any potential prodigy. Take that Austin Aarias, you foul piece of scum!

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It's called hyperbole, look it up.Originally posted by panther1 View PostYou're an idiot if that's what you got from my post. An absurd, ridiculous idiot...
Besides, you've essentially declared him guilty of crimes he hasn't committed yet earlier in the thread and directly referred to him as a timebomb. What the hell else am I supposed to get from your posts?
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A "menace", really??? It sounds like he was a disruptive, bad teammate, but that makes him a menace to the town? I'll have to look up his LinkedIn, since I didn't realize he was a member of ISIS, or the Westboro Baptist Church.Originally posted by panther1 View PostFirst offense simply means first time caught. And it the first offense that we know about, he's only been in Iowa a year and a half. BDJ (obviously a worse guy than Aarias...) was only caught once in Ames too, but he was a menace in town for his short stay.
Also, if your definition of menace is smoking pot in an apartment, then the UNI campus has plenty. Hate to break this to you, but many are also athletes. That kind of thing isn't a positive, but it is reality. Has been for a LONG time too.
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BDJ had police at his apartment for noise complaints, drugs, parties, etc. on a rather frequent basis. That is the menace statement. The guy was/is trouble. But he was only arrested once and somehow the charges seemed to vanish.Originally posted by SteinPizza View PostA "menace", really??? It sounds like he was a disruptive, bad teammate, but that makes him a menace to the town? I'll have to look up his LinkedIn, since I didn't realize he was a member of ISIS, or the Westboro Baptist Church.
Also, if your definition of menace is smoking pot in an apartment, then the UNI campus has plenty. Hate to break this to you, but many are also athletes. That kind of thing isn't a positive, but it is reality. Has been for a LONG time too.
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No, the charges didn't vanish, they were thrown out by a local judge.Originally posted by panther1 View PostBDJ had police at his apartment for noise complaints, drugs, parties, etc. on a rather frequent basis. That is the menace statement. The guy was/is trouble. But he was only arrested once and somehow the charges seemed to vanish.
Look, in hindsight and as a Cyclone fan, I wish BDJ had never come to campus. He had a lot of talent, but also a lot of attitude and a disruptive, negative influence from what I've read and heard. But don't make him or whatever he was involved with out to be worse then it really was.
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Bringing in someone dumb enough to get arrested in Ames, IA at 5 am on a Friday morning drunk and with weed before they are even on campus is a risk. If you don't agree with that, that's your call. I hope that this acts as a wake-up call to the young man, but we'll see.Originally posted by UNIChippewa View PostIt's called hyperbole, look it up.
Besides, you've essentially declared him guilty of crimes he hasn't committed yet earlier in the thread and directly referred to him as a timebomb. What the hell else am I supposed to get from your posts?
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Police were called to his apartment on 9 [documented] occasions in 3 months... I'd say that qualifies a person as a menace and trouble. By the way, the charges did vanish. The cops might have made a mistake somewhere in the investigation, but they didn't plant the weed in the apartment.Originally posted by UNIChippewa View PostNo, the charges didn't vanish, they were thrown out by a local judge.
Look, in hindsight and as a Cyclone fan, I wish BDJ had never come to campus. He had a lot of talent, but also a lot of attitude and a disruptive, negative influence from what I've read and heard. But don't make him or whatever he was involved with out to be worse then it really was.
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I'm shocked, shocked, that this would occur in a college atmosphere.Originally posted by panther1 View PostBDJ had police at his apartment for noise complaints, drugs, parties, etc. on a rather frequent basis. That is the menace statement. The guy was/is trouble. But he was only arrested once and somehow the charges seemed to vanish.
UNIChipewa is correct, the charges were tossed out by a judge. You may not like this for whatever reason, but the ruling stands, and there had to be a reason. I also wouldn't assume the cops/prosecutor are completely pristine, perfect, unbiased either. While I'm a fan of law and order, I also don't think cops and prosecutors should run around without a lot of oversight and extreme public scrutiny. In other words, make the system as perfectly balanced as you can.
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Wait a minute...20-year old kids sometimes make dumb mistakes?!!? NO WAY!!!Originally posted by panther1 View PostBringing in someone dumb enough to get arrested in Ames, IA at 5 am on a Friday morning drunk and with weed before they are even on campus is a risk. If you don't agree with that, that's your call. I hope that this acts as a wake-up call to the young man, but we'll see.
Sometimes when someone makes a mistake, even a big one, it's just a mistake, not some sort of dark omen that they are destined to be a trouble maker for the rest of their life. If you don't agree with that, that's your call.
I would have to imagine that between now and the start of the school year that there will probably be a handful of incoming UNI students who will be arrested on charges very similar to Austin's. They're not on campus yet. Are they all risks too?
I certainly don't condone what Austin did, but as I've written before, 20-year old kids aren't perfect. He has the added misfortune to have his mistake be discussed and dissected by a bunch of people on a UNI forum, some of those people apparently having never, ever done anything wrong in their own lives.
Let's give him a chance to get on campus and be a part of the program before declaring him a lost cause and a "timebomb". Is that really too much to ask?
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I would guess that is what will happen.Originally posted by UNIChippewa View PostWait a minute...20-year old kids sometimes make dumb mistakes?!!? NO WAY!!!
Sometimes when someone makes a mistake, even a big one, it's just a mistake, not some sort of dark omen that they are destined to be a trouble maker for the rest of their life. If you don't agree with that, that's your call.
I would have to imagine that between now and the start of the school year that there will probably be a handful of incoming UNI students who will be arrested on charges very similar to Austin's. They're not on campus yet. Are they all risks too?
I certainly don't condone what Austin did, but as I've written before, 20-year old kids aren't perfect. He has the added misfortune to have his mistake be discussed and dissected by a bunch of people on a UNI forum, some of those people apparently having never, ever done anything wrong in their own lives.
Let's give him a chance to get on campus and be a part of the program before declaring him a lost cause and a "timebomb". Is that really too much to ask?
I feel that the scholarship could be better used elsewhere given this arrest. This isn't the average incoming student at UNI, this is a student athlete on a highly visible team that is getting his way paid for him. I hope he works out and has learned his lesson.
That being said, a kid who is out at 5 am on a 'school night', caught drunk and with drugs is a definite risk though. If he were already on the team and on campus and the coaching staff had more contact with him and decided to keep him on, I'd be all about second chances, but I feel this is a stretch given the circumstances.
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Take out the marijuana (we all know it was his), and he still had the cops called on him on a weekly basis for 3 months. That is a menace.Originally posted by SteinPizza View PostI'm shocked, shocked, that this would occur in a college atmosphere.
UNIChipewa is correct, the charges were tossed out by a judge. You may not like this for whatever reason, but the ruling stands, and there had to be a reason. I also wouldn't assume the cops/prosecutor are completely pristine, perfect, unbiased either. While I'm a fan of law and order, I also don't think cops and prosecutors should run around without a lot of oversight and extreme public scrutiny. In other words, make the system as perfectly balanced as you can.
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Nicely statedOriginally posted by UNIChippewa View PostWait a minute...20-year old kids sometimes make dumb mistakes?!!? NO WAY!!!
Sometimes when someone makes a mistake, even a big one, it's just a mistake, not some sort of dark omen that they are destined to be a trouble maker for the rest of their life. If you don't agree with that, that's your call.
I would have to imagine that between now and the start of the school year that there will probably be a handful of incoming UNI students who will be arrested on charges very similar to Austin's. They're not on campus yet. Are they all risks too?
I certainly don't condone what Austin did, but as I've written before, 20-year old kids aren't perfect. He has the added misfortune to have his mistake be discussed and dissected by a bunch of people on a UNI forum, some of those people apparently having never, ever done anything wrong in their own lives.
Let's give him a chance to get on campus and be a part of the program before declaring him a lost cause and a "timebomb". Is that really too much to ask?
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