Basketball recruit arrested

[claw]

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In guessing that a certain person pointing fingers consumes alcohol on a recreational basis and therefore can relate to the OWI charge. Not saying that they've had one just that they don't judge the consumption of alcohol as harshly. Marijuana however, if you grew up in Mayberry and never saw it. (Don't know how that is possible) you equate pot to heroin and anybody that uses it also distributes, gangbangs and is destined for the life of a felon. I would guess, and this is a total guess, that half of the incoming students either smoked pot in their last year of high school or will smoke pot in their first year of college. It is as common as underage drinking. The OWI is a bigger deal that the weed. I would be more concerned if he had the reputation of being a trouble maker, fought teammates like Jevon Lyle or had a bad work ethic like Chris Olivier. Jake knows better than us and I trust him.

I have no issue with weed. I actually think it should be legal. The fact remains it's illegal. Just because "everyone else does it" doesn't make it less of a crime. I'm also in favor of significantly increasing the punishment for OWI (athletic department policy and state law)

[ProwlingPanther]

Wasn't suggesting that it wasn't illegal or should be overlooked. Kid has a responsibility to make smart decisions. Just saying it isn't as harsh of a crime as some are making it out to be and it certainly doesn't mean he is a bad kid. Neither does the fact that he was out till 5AM. Poor decisions, yes but doesn't make him a bad kid or a trouble maker. Some kids do that sort of thing all the time and never get caught. Some do it once or twice and meet the police. Doesn't matter but their is no historical evidence or formula that proves that because a kid got caught with weed at 5AM that he is destined for a life of trouble.

[SteinPizza]

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Some of the best times I had in cedar falls happened at 5 am

That's part of being young. Some here seem like they were either never young, or were raised by Amish Advenists and never went to movies, couldn't dance or listen to music, or freaked out at the sight of a jet airplane. . Just some harmless exaggeration to illustrate a point.

Also, there are other parts of the country where bars are legally open until 5 AM. What blasphemy that someone should be out so late!!!!!! As long as it's not the night before a game, I don't really care.

[ProwlingPanther]

I agree with this^^^^^^^

[NEI Panther]

If he makes it to CF, I hope he is up at 5 am every morning on his way to the gym to shoot or work out😉

[GonzoCat]

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I was up at 5 in CF almost every week day getting ready to go to work at 6. Often hung over, perhaps sometimes still legally under the influence from being at the bars until 2.

This is the first I've realized this incident occurred in Ames. I'm willing to give him a little more slack because of that. Ames is a hell hole and there are many athletes there who are doing this stuff and could have been a bad influenced. I imagine he was picked up with several ISU players and the cops called Freddie to see what to do about it as is their standard policy. Freddie assured them he would speak very harshly to each one, so they could let them go, then said wait a minute, Austin who? That's not one of mine, book him.

[sivert]

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GonzoCat, that is paranoid. . . but plausible.

[mwatje]

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I would guess, and this is a total guess, that half of the incoming students either smoked pot in their last year of high school or will smoke pot in their first year of college. It is as common as underage drinking.

That's a pretty wild guess. I graduated 9 years ago. In my class of 150 there was only about 15 people who had smoked weed. And of those, just shy of 10 regularly smoked it. So about 10% had experimented with it. I don't see that number being any higher than 15% for today's graduating high schoolers unless you live in Colorado or the Pacific Northwest. Alcohol is still tremendously more accessible then weed.

The thing about weed is that until it is legalized everywhere, you are supporting a criminal enterprise when you buy it. That's a really big deal. It also completely destroys your mind. Don't believe me? I'll let you try to carry a conversation with my Harvard educated uncle who was brilliant before 40 years of pot use turned his mind into a bowl of jello. He's the poster child for how weed can destroy your mind and ambition.

[UNIDebo]

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I was up at 5 in CF almost every week day getting ready to go to work at 6. Often hung over, perhaps sometimes still legally under the influence from being at the bars until 2.

This is the first I've realized this incident occurred in Ames. I'm willing to give him a little more slack because of that. Ames is a hell hole and there are many athletes there who are doing this stuff and could have been a bad influenced. I imagine he was picked up with several ISU players and the cops called Freddie to see what to do about it as is their standard policy. Freddie assured them he would speak very harshly to each one, so they could let them go, then said wait a minute, Austin who? That's not one of mine, book him.

Sounds about right.

[GonzoCat]

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That's a pretty wild guess. I graduated 9 years ago. In my class of 150 there was only about 15 people who had smoked weed. And of those, just shy of 10 regularly smoked it. So about 10% had experimented with it. I don't see that number being any higher than 15% for today's graduating high schoolers unless you live in Colorado or the Pacific Northwest. Alcohol is still tremendously more accessible then weed.

The thing about weed is that until it is legalized everywhere, you are supporting a criminal enterprise when you buy it. That's a really big deal. It also completely destroys your mind. Don't believe me? I'll let you try to carry a conversation with my Harvard educated uncle who was brilliant before 40 years of pot use turned his mind into a bowl of jello. He's the poster child for how weed can destroy your mind and ambition.

Sorry about your uncle, but how do you know weed is to blame? Anecdotal evidence at best, so I will see your one example and raise with Willie Nelson. At 82 still writing (2500 plus songs), recording (300 plus albums), touring (150 or so concerts per year), doing benefit work, has black belts in two martial arts, and operates a few business enterprises. I hear he smokes a little weed every now and then.

I don't think it's a great idea to smoke pot every day any more than it is to drink alcohol every day, but I would say your liver will give out faster than whatever body part pot may damage. And I know that alcohol has done a lot more societal damage than pot has, outside of the cost of keeping so many people in jail for possession.

[ProwlingPanther]

15%? I don't think so.

[ProwlingPanther]

Just did a 5 second google search and according to the National Institute of Drug Abuse 44% of teens will try marijuana before they graduate High School. Considering my wild guess included 1st year college students, I am guessing that 50% was way too low of a guess on my part. Not saying it is a good thing. Just saying it is reality. Also, sorry about your Uncle but I highly doubt it was pot alone that did that.

[Trapped in California]

The usage of marijuana has been most detrimental to teen users. The theory is that the compounds in mj effect the still developing brain.

MJ had been shown to nearly double the risk for schizophrenia for heavy teen users. The total risk is still pretty low, but there.

Also, approximately 1 in 10 users become a "dependent" user. A dependent user that starts as a teen can lose 6-10 IQ points permanently. That's 5-8% of the typical IQ of 120.

From my NSA monitored nexus 5

[panther1]

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Just did a 5 second google search and according to the National Institute of Drug Abuse 44% of teens will try marijuana before they graduate High School. Considering my wild guess included 1st year college students, I am guessing that 50% was way too low of a guess on my part. Not saying it is a good thing. Just saying it is reality. Also, sorry about your Uncle but I highly doubt it was pot alone that did that.

An Iowa study in 2012 put marijuana use at 13% for high school juniors. 50% is way, way too high. This is like the 'fact' that the LGBT community puts out about 1 in 10 of the general populace being gay when it's really something like under 2%. Trust me when I guarantee you that no where near 50% of high schoolers use pot in Iowa.

[vbfan19]

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The usage of marijuana has been most detrimental to teen users. The theory is that the compounds in mj effect the still developing brain.

MJ had been shown to nearly double the risk for schizophrenia for heavy teen users. The total risk is still pretty low, but there.

Also, approximately 1 in 10 users become a "dependent" user. A dependent user that starts as a teen can lose 6-10 IQ points permanently. That's 5-8% of the typical IQ of 120.

now let us list similar effects for alcohol...
(which makes complete morons out of many many people)