Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Schedule was not the issue this year.

That is the thing I just can't grasp. Of all the things that we can point at for why we are going to be in a third tier tournament.....the schedule is just not one of them. Our schedule did not hurt us. Well it did because it wore our guys out. But the strength of the schedule certainly didn't.

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Lol. You are just wrong. A win over Creighton (current RPI 82) does not raise our RPI 25 spots.

Also, if we could have scheduled that game we would have.

You need to get off your soap box. You're just wrong about this.

Okay, substitute a win over Saint Mary's instead of Dubuque. Have fun watching run of the mill basketball on Spring Break with the crickets.

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

A win over Akron instead of Dubuque would have helped as well.

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Okay, substitute a win over Saint Mary's instead of Dubuque. Have fun watching run of the mill basketball on Spring Break with the crickets.

Still doesn't raise our RPI 25 spots.

You make it sound like UNI had this opportunity to strengthen their (already stellar) schedule and they chose not to. They made every effort to build a strong schedule and they did. They had a great schedule. The schedule was not the problem.

They don't have a crystal ball. They don't know exactly which mid-majors will be high RPI teams before the season. They scheduled Richmond, Colorado State, SFA, BYU, New Mexico, Hawaii (in addition to UNC and ISU). What more do you want?

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Still doesn't raise our RPI 25 spots.

You make it sound like UNI had this opportunity to strengthen their (already stellar) schedule and they chose not to. They made every effort to build a strong schedule and they did. They had a great schedule. The schedule was not the problem.

They don't have a crystal ball. They don't know exactly which mid-majors will be high RPI teams before the season. They scheduled Richmond, Colorado State, New Mexico, Hawaii (in addition to UNC and ISU). What more do you want?

How about substituting Tulsa or St Joseph instead of Dubuque. Are you wanting the Buena Vista Beavers in the Mcloud on some freezing night in mid December? How about DMACC is that hepling out any?

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

I don't know maybe we need William Penn before Christmas? I can't wait!

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

I think Grand View has an opening on December 11th. Awesome! Wow! Dordt College has a team! Maybe we need have both of them next season. Our rotation looks young though. I hope they can handle it!

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

How about substituting Tulsa or St Joseph instead of Dubuque. Are you wanting the Buena Vista Beavers in the Mcloud on some freezing night in mid December? How about DMACC is that hepling out any?

What if the NCAA just gave us a list of how the final RPI will look at the end of the year and we can just pick and choose who we want to come play us at McLeod? That would probably be easier.

I give up. You're simply not dealing from reality.

Yes, if we hadn't scheduled Dubuque and scheduled Wisconsin-Milwaukee instead we would probably be projected to be a 1 seed in the dance and fielding offers from the Big Ten to join the conference next year.

[Panther100]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

What if the NCAA just gave us a list of how the final RPI will look at the end of the year and we can just pick and choose who we want to come play us at McLeod? That would probably be easier.

I give up. You're simply not dealing from reality.

Yes, if we hadn't scheduled Dubuque and scheduled Wisconsin-Milwaukee instead we would probably be projected to be a 1 seed in the dance and fielding offers from the Big Ten to join the conference next year.

Boy, we are a bit short this fine Thursday morning!

[claw]

You are the biggest dip**** in this forum.

[Codytwo]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Would this be another year where Jake declines any tournament that isn't the NCAA or NIT?

[unifan]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Would this be another year where Jake declines any tournament that isn't the NCAA or NIT?

Some might vote for yes but I'm hoping he will play, even if it isn't in the NCAA's or NIT. The last year he passed on the postseason opportunity was a year when the seniors had a much less significant role on the court.

[BCPanther]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Would this be another year where Jake declines any tournament that isn't the NCAA or NIT?

No. We're playing somewhere. I would imagine CIT or Vegas if StL doesn't go as well as we want it to.

[claw]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Since Panther100 thinks playing Creighton, or someone like that, would have a massive impact on our SOS and RPI here are some values of teams we played this year and how much they actually help our RPI...

North Carolina 1.24 points with a point weight of just 1.79
Stephen F Austin - 1.11 points with a point weight of just 1.79
BYU - .74 points with a point weight of just 1.82
Iowa State - .73 points with a point weight of just 1.79
New Mexico - .67 points - with a point weight of just 1.95

That means a team like Creighton would have an impact of about a half point, maybe three quarters of a point. That means our RPI would be 108 instead of 109 right now.

On the flip side...
Bradley - -3.16 points with a point weight of 4.49 (the highest of any opponent)
Drake - -2.6 points with a point weight of 4.34
Missouri State - - 1.22 points with a point weight of 4.34
Washington State - -1.15 points with a point weight of 1.82 (higher weight than ANY of our OOC wins)
George Mason - -.56 points with a point weight of 1.82 (higher weight than ANY of our OOC wins)
Loyola - -.52 points with a point weight of 4.37
North Texas - -.48 points with a point weight of 1.91 (higher weight than ANY of our OOC wins)
Indiana State - -.41 points with a point weight of 2.69 (lowest of any conference school actually)


Turns out that our SOS and RPI suck because of Drake, Bradley, Loyola, Missouri State and Indiana State - also known as the bottom half of our own freaking conference, which we have no choice but to play. That also includes a P12 team dragging our RPI down. It includes an A10 team dragging our RPI down.

Do you ever actually use logic/facts when you decide to talk out of your ass, or do you just throw **** against the wall?

[Purrrrrfect]

Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

Hey if we win on Friday against SIU, we get another shot at WSU likely..wouldn't mind knocking them down again (also another good win). As long as we wouldn't play Loyola in the final, I like our chances if we can get past the first two Aint nothing or no one holding Wes and Bo back from another title now.