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Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

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    Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

    Looking at this site of last year's NIT/CBI/CIT teams, their RPI ratings, records, and conference affiliation, it becomes pretty obvious where we're headed if we don't win Arch Madness (scroll to bottom):

    http://bracketmatrix.com/nit

    This isn't really ground-breaking news, just a statistical confirmation of what most of us already think. A couple of things are really telling:

    1. Two at-large teams made the NIT last year with an RPI lower than #85, Arizona State and Vanderbilt (both P5 schools given credit for tougher conferences).

    2. UNI is currently at #109 on realtimerpi.com - very much in line with the top 5 (or so) schools selected to the CBI and CIT tourneys last year.

    Are there wildcards? Sure. If we win out through at least the MVC title game (21-13 overall) and they take into account the UNC, ISU, and WSU on the road wins, maybe we get in on name recognition from last year combined with statement wins this year (in my opinion there's too many bad losses that detract from the big 3 wins, though). Who knows? I've been surprised about where we ended up before. Thoughts?
    Last edited by 95UNIGRAD; 02-24-2016, 03:08 PM.
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    Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

    20-13 with the Dubuque game costing us the NIT. We better not take those Cricket chirping high entry fee no talent required CIT/CBI/Vegas Tournaments. We better be the last team standing in St. Louis.

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    • #3
      Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

      Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
      20-13 with the Dubuque game costing us the NIT. We better not take those Cricket chirping high entry fee no talent required CIT/CBI/Vegas Tournaments. We better be the last team standing in St. Louis.
      The UD game did not cost us the NIT. That's a ridiculous statement. We had a top notch non conference schedule and will rarely be able to get a better one

      Playing terrible for half the season, however did cost us the NCAA/NIT.

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      • #4
        Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

        Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post
        The UD game did not cost us the NIT. That's a ridiculous statement. We had a top notch non conference schedule and will rarely be able to get a better one

        Playing terrible for half the season, however did cost us the NCAA/NIT.
        The UD game does nothing to secure an at large bid to the tournaments that matter. We needed Creighton or travel to Kansas Sate in their place. You like attending a game in mid December that draw cricket chirps? I sure don't.

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          Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

          Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
          The UD game does nothing to secure an at large bid to the tournaments that matter. We needed Creighton or travel to Kansas Sate in their place. You like attending a game in mid December that draw cricket chirps? I sure don't.
          How would losing at Creighton, K St, or wherever help? If I remember right, that UD game wasn't exactly a convincing win.
          To avoid confusion - my username is baseball (Cy Young award) related, NOT for the Cyclones.

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            Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

            Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
            The UD game does nothing to secure an at large bid to the tournaments that matter. We needed Creighton or travel to Kansas Sate in their place. You like attending a game in mid December that draw cricket chirps? I sure don't.
            I'm not saying it;s a great game but it's not the reason we aren't making the NIT (Losing to Loyola twice is why; among other games).

            Another game against a team with an rpi of 80 is nice but they are hard games to schedule. On top of that they are not guarantee wins and even a win wouldn't make up for all of our hiccups.

            Schedule was not the issue this year.

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            • #7
              Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

              Originally posted by CyCarp View Post
              How would losing at Creighton, K St, or wherever help? If I remember right, that UD game wasn't exactly a convincing win.
              This. The UD game came at a perfect time. Against anyone else that was a loss.
              Last edited by DownGoesKansas; 02-24-2016, 06:43 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                Panther100, I don't know why you picked today to beat this horse, but when you call K-State or Minnesota whoever you think we should try to bring in, I have a suggestion. Be sure to tell them that UNC came this year and they had a wonderful visit.

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                • #9
                  Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                  Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post
                  I'm not saying it;s a great game but it's not the reason we aren't making the NIT (Losing to Loyola twice is why; among other games).

                  Another game against a team with an rpi of 80 is nice but they are hard games to schedule. On top of that they are not guarantee wins and even a win wouldn't make up for all of our hiccups.

                  Schedule was not the issue this year.
                  C'mon man, have some confidence.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                    Originally posted by sivert View Post
                    Panther100, I don't know why you picked today to beat this horse, but when you call K-State or Minnesota whoever you think we should try to bring in, I have a suggestion. Be sure to tell them that UNC came this year and they had a wonderful visit.
                    When playing golf do you like the tips or the red ladies tee?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                      Originally posted by CyCarp View Post
                      How would losing at Creighton, K St, or wherever help? If I remember right, that UD game wasn't exactly a convincing win.
                      Who said anything about losing?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                        Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                        20-13 with the Dubuque game costing us the NIT. We better not take those Cricket chirping high entry fee no talent required CIT/CBI/Vegas Tournaments. We better be the last team standing in St. Louis.
                        Earlier today you said 20-13 is the 7 seed in the NIT and no other variables existed. Did the NIT change the selection criteria this afternoon?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                          Originally posted by hoopfan View Post
                          Earlier today you said 20-13 is the 7 seed in the NIT and no other variables existed. Did the NIT change the selection criteria this afternoon?
                          No, the criteria didn't change. We make the 7 seed in the NIT substituting a win over a team like Creighton in place of the useless win over Dubuque. As it is 20-13 with how our season went means we get one of those high entry fee/ no talent required tournaments that make me ill.
                          Last edited by Panther100; 02-25-2016, 12:02 AM.

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                            Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                            BTW, I enjoyed the cat and mouse gang up this afternoon.

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                              Re: Where will we wind up? Stats say CBI/CIT

                              Originally posted by Panther100 View Post
                              20-13 with the Dubuque game costing us the NIT. We better not take those Cricket chirping high entry fee no talent required CIT/CBI/Vegas Tournaments. We better be the last team standing in St. Louis.
                              Lol. You are just wrong. A win over Creighton (current RPI 82) does not raise our RPI 25 spots.

                              Also, if we could have scheduled that game we would have.

                              You need to get off your soap box. You're just wrong about this.

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