Ashton to UNI!

[SteinPizza]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

He is more of a defensive player, something that really isn't well received at Iowa State

Not sure how much you're joking, but you're at least partially correct. If you're going to play in Iowa State's system, you'd better bring some serious value add on the offensive end of the floor. Nothing wrong with that, just a different style and philosophy by the coach. Prohm seems to pay more attention to D than Fred, but it was still pretty wide open, push the ball.

I highly doubt Ashton is being brought in as a primary scoring threat. The coaches have probably seen enough film to know how they'll use him.

[UNIdad]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

Not sure how much you're joking, but you're at least partially correct. If you're going to play in Iowa State's system, you'd better bring some serious value add on the offensive end of the floor. Nothing wrong with that, just a different style and philosophy by the coach. Prohm seems to pay more attention to D than Fred, but it was still pretty wide open, push the ball.

I highly doubt Ashton is being brought in as a primary scoring threat. The coaches have probably seen enough film to know how they'll use him.

And Iowa State is loading up with guards for next year. Jordan's place on the depth chart was likely to go down. Prohm sent two guards to the NBA in recent years from Murray State . . . yes, from Murray State!

[BCPanther]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

The one year player is ideal. Can really put the squeeze on Brad Davison for next year. Imagine Bo with the ability to put the ball on the floor and get his own shot from Day 1.

[06panther10]

ISU really never struggled with Guard depth either. He's not coming here to be a star, but could be a valued piece. Think about this. UNI has 8 new guys on scholarship (including last years redshirts) to replace Washpun, Jesperson and Bohannon. Even if Lohaus and another redshirt, that's 6 new guys. UNI could be scary good next year.

We are not going to be scary good. I would pump the brakes hard on those types of expectations.

We have a chance to be pretty good. A lot of new guys, new roles, youth, and moving pieces. It will take time, and there will be stretches where its a real struggle.

Now, two years from now on the other hand, we could be scary good...

[CyCarp]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

We are not going to be scary good. I would pump the brakes hard on those types of expectations.

We have a chance to be pretty good. A lot of new guys, new roles, youth, and moving pieces. It will take time, and there will be stretches where its a real struggle.

Now, two years from now on the other hand, we could be scary good...

If we are pretty good this year, we are set up for a long stretch of success imo.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

We are not going to be scary good. I would pump the brakes hard on those types of expectations.

We have a chance to be pretty good. A lot of new guys, new roles, youth, and moving pieces. It will take time, and there will be stretches where its a real struggle.

Now, two years from now on the other hand, we could be scary good...

This is exactly correct. New faces doesn't equal good. Let's see them play at this level first.

The future appears to look bright, but I'm glad for the two recent additions. If only one contributes next year, it still takes some weight off unproven players (at this level) like Haldeman, McCloud, and Brown.

[06panther10]

If we are pretty good this year, we are set up for a long stretch of success imo.

Yes, absolutely.

Losing Jeremy will obviously be a big blow, but despite that, we will bring SO much talent and experience back in '16-17. That could be a big season for us.

[Stickboy46]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

Yes, absolutely.

Losing Jeremy will obviously be a big blow, but despite that, we will bring SO much talent and experience back in '16-17. That could be a big season for us.

I'm assuming you mean '17-18 since Morgan will still be on the team in '16-17(this year).

'17-18 overall should be interesting for the Valley. You guys will only lose 1 scholarship player after next year and WSU wont lose any after next year (barring any transfers or last minute additions this year, WSU has no scholarship seniors this year).

So that's a lot of talent and experience that will be around for 2 more years. A lot of other school have some good young talent. The question is ... how many of them are still around 2 year from now.

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

We are not going to be scary good. I would pump the brakes hard on those types of expectations.

We have a chance to be pretty good. A lot of new guys, new roles, youth, and moving pieces. It will take time, and there will be stretches where its a real struggle.

Now, two years from now on the other hand, we could be scary good...

I would agree. The post above leads me to believe we might have more depth.....but just because we are replacing three guys with eight guys does not make us more talented. Those are 3 very talented guys we are replacing.

[Username]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

I think we have a better 1-2 punch with Morgan/Carlson then any team in the past few years surrounded by depth. Maybe the term "scary good" was a bit much, but I think next years team is better than this years, and that's pretty good.

Morgan and Karlson played at another level from MVC tourney on, and essentially almost carried the team to a win against Texas A&M without spectacular offensive performances from the 3 seniors.

[DownGoesKansas]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

I think we have a better 1-2 punch with Morgan/Karlson then any team in the past few years surrounded by depth. Maybe the term "scary good" was a bit much, but I think next years team is better than this years, and that's pretty good.

Carlson. (Sorry just a pet peeve, im fine with spelling names wrong but we should be able to get the first letter right for one of our best players)

But agreed. If they play like we have seen they are capable it will be a great combo.

[Panther100]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

I count 10 new guys without red shirting. 4 red shirt Freshman, 3 true Freshman (1 probably R/S), 1 Graduate transfer, 1 JC transfer, 1 North Dakota transfer (must R/S) to go along with Morgan, Carlson, Koch, W. Lohaus, and Freidman. Agreed, on the more depth doesn't equal more wins. I see more turnovers and fouls with going 12 deep. I think we are an NIT round of 8 or Final Four team next season.

[ProwlingPanther]

I count 10 new guys without red shirting. 4 red shirt Freshman, 3 true Freshman (1 probably R/S), 1 Graduate transfer, 1 JC transfer, 1 North Dakota transfer (must R/S) to go along with Morgan, Carlson, Koch, W. Lohaus, and Freidman. Agreed, on the more depth doesn't equal more wins. I see more turnovers and fouls with going 12 deep. I think we are an NIT round of 8 or Final Four team next season.

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[Username]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

Carlson. (Sorry just a pet peeve, im fine with spelling names wrong but we should be able to get the first letter right for one of our best players)

But agreed. If they play like we have seen they are capable it will be a great combo.

Ugh, I'm usually pretty good with names too, that K/C got me, just goofed on that one.

[DownGoesKansas]

Re: Ashton to UNI!

Ugh, I'm usually pretty good with names too, that K/C got me, just goofed on that one.

Eh. No worries. Was just giving you a hard time.